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Firstly, Im also on the balance team remember.
Second, it's a statement of fact, if the player base is so small, and the possibilities so limited, without new items, the game is a monotonous grind against the same opponents over and over again.
Point 2 leads nicely into my third point, being that, the game is dying, since arena participation is low, players are quitting, and grinding is horrible.
Honestly, we either need better events that increase arena participation, I made a thread about a possibility, or we just need new items, which change the matchups, if released on a weekly basis, people will be playing new builds every week, making the game less monotonous.

The best thing to do is to make a Legendary portal, instead of bringing new items.  Or do portals on previous epic items, giving new players a chance to get those items.  You don't need new items. 

Supermechs isnt dying. You cannot kill what is already dead.

BM did evolve into SM.
Although they’re different games, they still share the same core concepts. Think of the mini-game version as v1.0, and the current game as v2.0 (or v3.0 after Reloaded ended the Legacy era).

That’s going to take a long time. That’s why I didn’t mention v4.0.
Alexander only did a few balance changes since taking control of the game. Currently, at 5-6 months in, still waiting for the rest of the balance changes mentioned to occur.
Hypothetically, if it takes 6 months to do a balance change, I'd hate to think how long it’d take to start introducing new items.

In regards to Brute, once again, you’re incorrect. Brute has 2 shots while Spartan has 3 shots.
That extra shot makes Spartan better than Brute.
Thus, Spartan a premium weapon, while Brute is a common weapon. Even before the nerf, Brute was always a common weapon.

It’s ancient.

I haven’t found a use for it since the newer range drones came out years ago.

I know it was Tacticsoft’s policy not to disable the base twice. Since you’ve been waiting for three months, I assume this is also the case with Gato. Three month is a long time to wait.

His name was YourN*****

Lol, commander abuse XD

I agree with Shoultz on keeping Brute as a unique item. Why must everything with you be similar, are you trying to simplify the game? Make it boring or lack strategic depth?
 

Lemme do some quick math...
179

wtf

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The stench of this thread was just too much to ignore.

just think about the mechs diversification. we need all. 🤣

Tell that to the top rank players using The Claw that I can't beat yet 😕
The Claw is totally viable even after the Massive Feet came out.  In my opinion it just depends on build.  It's not in the current META list that I know of, sure, but it still makes an appearance often.

I know it was Tacticsoft’s policy not to disable the base twice. Since you’ve been waiting for three months, I assume this is also the case with Gato. Three month is a long time to wait.

Frantic Brute is already like a F2P's Spartan Carnage. As to how:
The Differences
- Has just about the same energy cost but twice the heat gen (30/70 vs 31/31)
- Has only 2 shots while Spartan Carnage has 3
- Weighs 1kg less than Spartan Carnage but that's barely a difference at all
- Does 12 resist break per shot while Spartan Carnage does 15 per shot
- Has a wider damage range, which provides a higher damage cap at the cost of more damage inconsistency, while Spartan Carnage has a much more narrow damage range, which provides a more consistent set of results at the cost of lower maximum damage (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this, Spartan Carnage users.)
- Has a lower shot damage total than Carnage (Brute = 618 * 2 = 1236 / Carnage = 490 * 3 = 1470; Carnage can do +234 damage over Brute if all their shots hit max damage every time)(Note: This excludes resist break.)
The Similarities
- Are heavily spammable for physical weapons
- Are 3-6 range to maximize that annoyance factor against Malice Beam and Corrupt Light users
- Used for high physical damage capabilities that mainly rely on RNG and are hated by users when they hit too low and hated by targets when they hit too high
 
Conclusion
Both Frantic Brute and Spartan Carnage are similar in terms of purpose and functionality but Spartan Carnage has a slightly higher edge due to certain aspects of the Brute holding it back. However, that slightly higher edge doesn't mean much since both weapons rely on RNG in order to perform and have both rewarding crits and disappointing minimums.
But hey, hopefully this managed to clear some things up.. If not, feel free to correct me but don't jump me for comparing two similar weapons due to the famous state of one and the infamous state of the other.
Bonus!
Out of curiosity, I did the damage calculation with the minimum damage potentials of both weapons:

Frantic Brute: 246 * 2 = 492
Spartan Carnage: 286 * 3 = 858
So, Spartan Carnage is capable of outdamaging the Brute if their shots hit the bare minimum (still excluding resist break here).. And as for the overall damage potential.. Well..
Frantic Brute: 492 - 1236
Spartan Carnage: 858 - 1470
That 3rd shot really does make a difference in the long run, especially when you're dual-wielding Spartans.
 
 
 
 

oh fck, nevermind  XD

What exactly did this rank-1 player say? And who mentioned this?
What methods are you referring to?
I give you credit for trying in WU, but that’s not the same as playing against other players.
If I’m not mistaken, you’re referring to my quoted comment above. If that’s the case, you quoted a single sentence out of context.
You forgot to quote my entire paragraph.
You need to read the entire paragraph to get what I’m discussing.
Because you’re on the Balance Team, that’s even more reason to debate this issue with you.
I’m glad to hear that because rank-1 players should have more leeway due to their experience.

Sigh... Whenever I’ve a debate with you, why do you always have to take it personally? Can it ever be straight on the subject matter, which is about Brute.

Once again, if you actually read everything I mentioned, you’d have a clue what I’m discussing. I’m talking about Brute! It isn’t about you. If I were actually talking about you only, I wouldn’t bother having a debate on Brute.
Can you stop making this debate about you? I can do without further off-topic comments.
In regards to ad hominem, let me guess, the following comments we had is what you’re referring to as ad hominem?


I criticized your logic on Brute, not your character. If I criticized your character, then you can consider that ad hominem. I suggest you look up the meaning of ad hominem.
Let me guess. Since you’re unable to defeat Brute, you want to nerf it, so you can benefit from its nerf. If that’s the case, that shows how bias you are. I’ll reiterate myself again: get good before discussing a nerf. Otherwise, you’ve no basis on discussing a nerf.
Since Tacticsoft didn’t see a reason to nerf it, despite repeated requests for a nerf, I don’t see a reason to nerf it in the first place either. After all, Tacticsoft is the creator of this game, and they had a team of programmers to ensure there’s balance in their game. It was in their best interest to maintain a balance.
Besides, Alexander already had it nerfed. How many times does it need to be nerfed? Nerf it into non-existent?

By the way, I don’t need to use CleverName’s builds to beat Brutes. I simply use dual Spartans, as you should already know by now. So, once again, you’re incorrect because you limit yourself by copying someone else’s build instead of strategically thinking of your own build.
Lol, jealousy is the furthest thing from my mind. That reminds me of the last debate we had about Brute. You thought I was thinking about something when it was never on the radar for me.
As you can see, the further I reply to your comments, the further it strays from the topic of discussion, Brute!
Can we drop the off-topic ad hominem and Balance Team comments, and get back to the subject matter? Thank you!
Frankly, I’m been done on the Balance Team comments since I mentioned it in my first post. I’m not interested in hearing you defend your position on it. As far as I’m concerned, you’re on the Balance Team. That should be end of that discussion.
Finally, back on topic!
I disagree. Brute isn’t op for a non-premium. From my experience since Alexander’s nerf on Brute, I noticed these performances on Brute in the arena:
In general, Brute does a little less damage than a Spartan does. So, it shouldn’t be a problem for dual Spartans to take down dual Brutes.   As for Heat builds, if people have the right builds, they can destroy Spartans or Brutes in the top ranks, especially since heat have equivalent HP as physical and can cause shutdowns.   Lastly, for energy builds, people shouldn’t have an issue with Brute since its energy requirement has increased due to Alexander’s nerf. The same goes for Brute’s heat requirement increased. Therefore, it’s still possible to drain opponents (Brute users). With everything just mentioned, it seems at the middle ranks everything is equal. Otherwise, why would I still see all 3 elements in the area.
If people want to complain, then get good. What it really comes down to is how people strategically build their mechs.
If anything, people can counter a Brute with another Brute. That’s a simply strategy. Everyone has easy access to Brutes since it’s a non-premium item. It’s not like getting a Spartan.  

What exactly did this rank-1 player say? And who mentioned this?
What methods are you referring to?
I give you credit for trying in WU, but that’s not the same as playing against other players.
If I’m not mistaken, you’re referring to my quoted comment above. If that’s the case, you quoted a single sentence out of context.
You forgot to quote my entire paragraph.
You need to read the entire paragraph to get what I’m discussing.
Because you’re on the Balance Team, that’s even more reason to debate this issue with you.
I’m glad to hear that because rank-1 players should have more leeway due to their experience.

Sigh... Whenever I’ve a debate with you, why do you always have to take it personally? Can it ever be straight on the subject matter, which is about Brute.

Once again, if you actually read everything I mentioned, you’d have a clue what I’m discussing. I’m talking about Brute! It isn’t about you. If I were actually talking about you only, I wouldn’t bother having a debate on Brute.
Can you stop making this debate about you? I can do without further off-topic comments.
In regards to ad hominem, let me guess, the following comments we had is what you’re referring to as ad hominem?


I criticized your logic on Brute, not your character. If I criticized your character, then you can consider that ad hominem. I suggest you look up the meaning of ad hominem.
Let me guess. Since you’re unable to defeat Brute, you want to nerf it, so you can benefit from its nerf. If that’s the case, that shows how bias you are. I’ll reiterate myself again: get good before discussing a nerf. Otherwise, you’ve no basis on discussing a nerf.
Since Tacticsoft didn’t see a reason to nerf it, despite repeated requests for a nerf, I don’t see a reason to nerf it in the first place either. After all, Tacticsoft is the creator of this game, and they had a team of programmers to ensure there’s balance in their game. It was in their best interest to maintain a balance.
Besides, Alexander already had it nerfed. How many times does it need to be nerfed? Nerf it into non-existent?

By the way, I don’t need to use CleverName’s builds to beat Brutes. I simply use dual Spartans, as you should already know by now. So, once again, you’re incorrect because you limit yourself by copying someone else’s build instead of strategically thinking of your own build.
Lol, jealousy is the furthest thing from my mind. That reminds me of the last debate we had about Brute. You thought I was thinking about something when it was never on the radar for me.
As you can see, the further I reply to your comments, the further it strays from the topic of discussion, Brute!
Can we drop the off-topic ad hominem and Balance Team comments, and get back to the subject matter? Thank you!
Frankly, I’m been done on the Balance Team comments since I mentioned it in my first post. I’m not interested in hearing you defend your position on it. As far as I’m concerned, you’re on the Balance Team. That should be end of that discussion.
Finally, back on topic!
I disagree. Brute isn’t op for a non-premium. From my experience since Alexander’s nerf on Brute, I noticed these performances on Brute in the arena:
In general, Brute does a little less damage than a Spartan does. So, it shouldn’t be a problem for dual Spartans to take down dual Brutes.   As for Heat builds, if people have the right builds, they can destroy Spartans or Brutes in the top ranks, especially since heat have equivalent HP as physical and can cause shutdowns.   Lastly, for energy builds, people shouldn’t have an issue with Brute since its energy requirement has increased due to Alexander’s nerf. The same goes for Brute’s heat requirement increased. Therefore, it’s still possible to drain opponents (Brute users). With everything just mentioned, it seems at the middle ranks everything is equal. Otherwise, why would I still see all 3 elements in the area.
If people want to complain, then get good. What it really comes down to is how people strategically build their mechs.
If anything, people can counter a Brute with another Brute. That’s a simply strategy. Everyone has easy access to Brutes since it’s a non-premium item. It’s not like getting a Spartan.  

Yes, that’s a good thing. You wouldn’t like it if I were in charge.
Diverse opinions aren’t the same as good opinions, such as your opinion about countering Brute:
I seriously can’t believe you mentioned that.
Anyway, I see what you’re saying about diverse opinions. A low-rank’s opinions on a low tier item would make sense. But there’s something you’re forgetting. Rank 1-2 were once rank 25. Just because people attain rank 1-2 doesn’t mean they forgot about their roots.
But sure, diverse opinions as you say. I see nothing wrong with a low-rank’s opinions for lower tier items, as long as it’s sensible opinions. Despite saying that, I still think rank 1-2 opinions matter more.
My point is about knowledge and experience. If you don’t have one or the other, you don’t have the whole picture. With that said, it makes sense people who possess these characteristics will be those in the higher ranks, not some rank 25.
I disagree. Rank 1-2 is leagues beyond rank 3. I’ll use an exaggerated example: Rank 1 vs. rank 25. My point is rank 3 doesn’t possess the knowledge and experience to attain rank 1; discounting copying someone else’s builds.
Good to hear. I look forward to seeing you improve on your logic very soon then.
That’s incorrect. I don’t have to be rank 1-2 to trash Brute users. I can do it in rank 5!
That’s interesting to note you’re picking on Brute only and not Spartan. Let me guess, you think Brute is better than Spartan?
If Brute kills you in 2 turns, then you aren’t good. With you saying that, why don’t you get good before thinking about nerfing something. It sounds like you set yourself up for failure against Brute.
With you saying that, it makes absolute sense that you struggle with Brute. Why don’t you think about your own builds instead of copying someone else’s build. That way, you can think for yourself instead of spoon-fed build strategies.
And by the way, you saying that is the same thing as the Spiderman meme or playing chess against yourself.

I was implying total damage when I mentioned shots. My point was the total damage for all the shots, not shots by itself, as noted in the quote below:
 
 
As in the past and even now, I see no difficulties in dealing with Brute. That sounds like a problem you need to work on.
When I mentioned common, I meant it’s low on the rarity tier, not specifically it’s a common rarity item. Since I own 2 divined Brute, I know of its rarity.

I added Spartans in the photo to show I’ve experience to backup my words.
That’s a losing strategy. All a Brute user has to do to stay in range is use a Rock Recoiler or use utilities.
By you mentioning that, I wonder why you’re even on the Balance Team. Alexander should make a prerequisite before joining the Balance Team, like be rank 1-2. If anyone has the most experience, those people will have a better understanding on the game. Those people didn’t make it to rank 1-2 for nothing (disregarding copilots).

Good sale! I also liked the previous sale with the 15 premium packs.
I’m beginning to notice a trend here. There are a lot more $50 deals and 15-premium-packs sales.
With that said, I say goodbye to my precious... 💰💸

Good sale! I also liked the previous sale with the 15 premium packs.
I’m beginning to notice a trend here. There are a lot more $50 deals and 15-premium-packs sales.
With that said, I say goodbye to my precious... 💰💸