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1 minute ago, Shoultz262 said:

Bruh, f2ps were still doing fine with physical mechs before frantic brute. Don't act like frantic brute is the only f2p physical weapon. Rock recoiler, nightfall and night eagle are still very viable options.

I'm not acting like anything, I'm just asking the question because I'm newer.  With all due respect please re-read my reply: it's a question, not a statement.

1 hour ago, SawzAll said:

I'm not acting like anything, I'm just asking the question because I'm newer.  With all due respect please re-read my reply: it's a question, not a statement.

Then yeah, I see. My bad.

3 hours ago, SawzAll said:

if we nerf Frantic Brute too much, do we harm the F2P people who may never get a Spartan?

But if we don't nerf it,we harm the entire playerbase,including F2P,P2W and the sorts.

Also,is Spartan really the only option?We have Mighty Cannon,Rock Recoiler,NightFall,Sacrifice Cannon and especially Malfunctioning Blaster that's essentially a side Spartan with half the weight and energy-free.

This is an example of a low-key,budget-meta phys.And you know why some would say it's weak?Because it's fair and balanced.Because it doesn't hit 800 and kill anything in 2 turns.

In truth,the build above is a direct downgrade from a Dual Spartan.If it had 2 Malf. Blasters,it'd be essentially a backfire,energy-free Dual Spartan.

And,in fact,Spartan doesn't even compare to Frantic.Dual Spartans die to Dual Frantics more often that you'd think;anything does actually.

Frantic will be removed or nerfed can you show me a physical build where I can be rank 5
get monkey head and claw

1 hour ago, L4K3 said:

This is an example of a low-key,budget-meta phys.And you know why some would say it's weak?Because it's fair and balanced.Because it doesn't hit 800 and kill anything in 2 turns.

I know I'm new, but if I may be permitted to show you something:

WEAPON       AVG DAMAGE Frantic Brute	360
Disintegration	359
War Hammer	350
Mighty Cannon	342
Dark Eagle	337
Ejection Blast	336
Distance Shredder	336
Mercy	336
Malfunctioning Blaster	336
Rock Polisher	336
Seraph Blade	327
Back Breaker	327
Rock Recoiler	327
Spartan Carnage	323
Terror Cry	308
Nightfall	305
Reckless Beam	303
Unrepaired Laser Cannon	290

 

With all due respect, there seems to be a bit of a difference between Frantic Brute and Unrepaired Laser Cannon in terms of average damage.  I calculate this using ((min damage + max damage) / 2 ) - backfire. 

Wouldn't you need to make backfire zero to put Unrepaired Laser Cannon on equal footing in terms of damage?  Granted, unlike Frantic, it's got unlimited uses....

Just asking because I'm new.

3 hours ago, SawzAll said:

Frantic Brute and Unrepaired Laser Cannon

I didn't say anything about Unrepaired Laser Cannon  

I did say that thing about the Malfunctioning Blaster though...And also,calculating the damage dealt by substracting the backfire makes no sense.With or without the backfire,the weapon will inflict an amount to your opponent.Backfire does not affect how much your enemy takes and it only affects you;thus is irrelevant in this case.It's okay,we get it that you're new and we'll be patient,as others were patient with us too during our time.

But still...It at least it has a (somewhat) 50-50 chance between avg-high or avg-low hits.If you like maths,try to compare that avg damage and make the chances of Frantic Brute's hits...That's where the sad truth starts to unravel,since it has such a damage limit that it even biases the odds.

Also,we all got it already.You support Frantic;that's okay.We understand.

10 hours ago, Shoultz262 said:

Rock recoiler, nightfall and night eagle are still very viable options.

Ah yes, two of the rarest epics. Still, I see your point.

>rarest epics

??? I must have fused away 100 of each lmao

you really have trouble copping a nightfall in 2020?

4 hours ago, L4K3 said:

Also,we all got it already.You support Frantic;that's okay.We understand.

Never said I support it. I'm asking if there's a viable F2P alternative.

The picture featured a mech with unrepaired laser canon.

9 hours ago, SawzAll said:

unrepaired laser canon.

I'm pretty sure I told you twice.

And then I never mentioned URC as being a very viable weapon.If anything;it's underpowered and situational.

 

13 minutes ago, L4K3 said:

I'm pretty sure I told you twice.

And then I never mentioned URC as being a very viable weapon.If anything;it's underpowered and situational.

 

Ah, ok, my badd then, I was going by the picture and confused myself.

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Hey I had an idea last night that I wanted to ask you all about.

How about we make the Frantic Brute identical in stats to the Spartan Carnage except with 2 shots (like it currently is) rather than 3?  Basically make the Frantic Brute a Spartan Carnage "Lite"?

Would that fix the issue?

(Then the frantic lightning and frantic flame could be made more or less equivalent to what a heat-based or energy-based Spartan would be like, etc.)

Do you think that would work with meta and such?

Edited December 22, 2020 by SawzAll (see edit history)

6 hours ago, SawzAll said:

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lol.

As much as I think this forum is more organized (which is important as to not mess the threads up) and looks cool, I believe the process of creating and editing post is inherently broken.

I can't comment on exactly what that is broken, however. But I can tell that this forum work better if you have a large screen (that displays more content; a XL iPad does not bring any improvement), like a laptop.

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But this way or that, I like (and/or hate) the fact that the forum auto-merges repetitive posts. It keep them longer and more informational

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We are going off topic. Suggestions to items (e.g. frantic) should be posted in "meta->suggestions" in a thread dedicated to frantic, not here.

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I was going to complain about this auto-expand of Onebox link, but the fact that it make a bigger (and more apparent link) put me here.

Edited December 22, 2020 by CDR_Xavier (see edit history)

10 hours ago, SawzAll said:

How about we make the Frantic Brute identical in stats to the Spartan Carnage except with 2 shots (like it currently is) rather than 3?  Basically make the Frantic Brute a Spartan Carnage "Lite"?

Would that fix the issue?

Sir,that would effectively and efficiently solve the problem,along with an addition of something juicy to the game.

That isn't only balanced;that's genius and plainly beautiful.But I can already see some arguments as to why it shouldn't be a thing...

47 minutes ago, L4K3 said:

Sir,that would effectively and efficiently solve the problem,along with an addition of something juicy to the game.

That isn't only balanced;that's genius and plainly beautiful.But I can already see some arguments as to why it shouldn't be a thing...

Honestly my only complaint about that is that most of the time in low ranks you won't even need all three shots. maybe 2 shot spartan with 50-100 less damage.

Making an extra Spartan but epic and removing 1 shot from it is already pretty well balanced and neat.Pretty much not budget Spartan,as that's NightFall,but rather ''More accessible but also more limited in the same time'' Spartan;if you lower the damage,then it becomes highly underpowered.

Otherwise nothing can justify the damage lowering.

 

vendre des mechs était une mauvaise idée

bonne idée modifiée mechs d'avantage géant, mechs petits, unité de puissance max et réplique divine legy 

Well ... nothing for now.

In principle, it seems good to me that what already exists is rebalanced and not that new things are added, although I always missed a rolling heat E-M or L-M that advances 3 places. Perhaps it´s the only thing I would add to a very cluttered inventory of items.

oui j'espère bientôt et meilleure arme thermique qui pousse deux fois et sans énergie. arme : pare-feu

Edited December 26, 2020 by Grosboss (see edit history)

Today is the  1st balances deadline guys !

I would love to help 

Let me know if I have to write my id