Bring live your dreams Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) A New class of Hammer coming to supermechs? What class this can be? I come with the idea of a class of launching hammer, no axes be cause i think can be more hard launch a axe than a hammer in real life First the physical version, next the other two version Pain Thrower/Legendary Basically, a little version of the Hammer, only with the chance of this have a chain connected to the mech Damage: 123 — 259 Physic Damage Level 1 198 — 327 Physic Damage Level 40 1 Movement left or right to the enemy 15 heat damage 15 energy damage Requirements: 31 heat 112 backfire 2 — 4 Range Only have 2 uses Pain Thrower/Mithycal This versión of the weapon is like the mithical hammer but the chain has spikes, epic? No? 221 — 327 Physic Damage level 1 287 — 498 Physic Damage level 50 292 — 502 Level 1 Divine 30 heat storage damage 30 energy storage damage Requirements: 42 heat 158 backfire 2 — 4 range Upgrade to 3 uses What you think about this idea? Its good? Its bad? A change what you want to do? Tell me in the comments, Thanks for reading Edited April 5, 2021 by The Cyclops with Mechs (see edit history) AftoKrator and OKI DOKI 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 first of throwing axes exist. Also pretty much no one likes backfire and this has no use. PURPLE Bring Back The Confetti! "Like and follow it'll give me a better reputation" - Spam Stolen from @JamAnime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink555 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I would buff charge engine it has become trashed item MasterChief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Just now, Pink555 said: I would buff charge engine it has become trashed item that was random PURPLE Bring Back The Confetti! "Like and follow it'll give me a better reputation" - Spam Stolen from @JamAnime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawzAll Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 I dunno about this ............. AftoKrator and MasterChief 1 1 "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." http://www.puresimplicity.net/~oneeyedcat/misc/supermechs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 ... so like a hammer & flail? (@SawzAll) am i saying it right One Mech to rule them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawzAll Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 13 hours ago, MasterChief said: ... so like a hammer & flail? (@SawzAll) am i saying it right Hmm. So, like is it something like in TriGun where the person throws a fist/boomerang but there's a chain attached that he can use to reel the weapon back in after throwing it? MasterChief 1 "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." http://www.puresimplicity.net/~oneeyedcat/misc/supermechs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring live your dreams Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SawzAll said: Hmm. So, like is it something like in TriGun where the person throws a fist/boomerang but there's a chain attached that he can use to reel the weapon back in after throwing it?yes, Yes, Possibly like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawzAll Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 3 hours ago, The Cyclops with Mechs said: Yes, Possibly like this Ok. I can't see anything like this not requiring some sort of energy. And given the current state of energy, I'm very reluctant to vote "yes" for something that is energy-free. We'll see, I guess. "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." http://www.puresimplicity.net/~oneeyedcat/misc/supermechs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AftoKrator Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) Ok, so this is how I would visualize it since there weren't any provided visuals of how it'll turn out..... Obviously, the launcher thing wouldn't look like a modified heatbomb... and the hammerhead wouldn't look like a flaming grapple + flame hammer...... and the chain wouldn't look like a fishbone... I honestly think it'll be nice if is retractable for multi-use and stuff.... Edited April 6, 2021 by Aftokrator_SM (see edit history) Discord: Aftokrator#9688 DeviantArt: Azorsia05 User Profile | DeviantArt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eevee Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 what's wrong with a fishbone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring live your dreams Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Aftokrator_SM said: Ok, so this is how I would visualize it since there weren't any provided visuals of how it'll turn out..... Obviously, the launcher thing wouldn't look like a modified heatbomb... and the hammerhead wouldn't look like a flaming grapple + flame hammer...... and the chain wouldn't look like a fishbone... I honestly think it'll be nice if is retractable for multi-use and stuff.... I really wanted to make a design of this weapon but i dont how to do the image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawzAll Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 14 hours ago, Aftokrator_SM said: Ok, so this is how I would visualize it since there weren't any provided visuals of how it'll turn out..... Obviously, the launcher thing wouldn't look like a modified heatbomb... and the hammerhead wouldn't look like a flaming grapple + flame hammer...... and the chain wouldn't look like a fishbone... I honestly think it'll be nice if is retractable for multi-use and stuff.... Not saying it's a bad idea, just saying I really do not see how logically (or even based on meta) this should be energy-free. I get it, SM isn't the most realistic game, we have energy beams and stuff. Just saying.... "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." http://www.puresimplicity.net/~oneeyedcat/misc/supermechs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, SawzAll said: Not saying it's a bad idea, just saying I really do not see how logically (or even based on meta) this should be energy-free. Guns don't use energy in real life, they use a gunpowder explosion to propel them so maybe this would to. Edited April 7, 2021 by Spam (see edit history) rc 1 PURPLE Bring Back The Confetti! "Like and follow it'll give me a better reputation" - Spam Stolen from @JamAnime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawzAll Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Spam said: Guns don't use energy ii real life, they use a gunpowder explosion to propel them so maybe this would to. I worked on the F-16. The Vulcan cannon uses energy and hydraulic power. Sure, there are some weapons that use no energy. But I don't see how (if we're trying to think of how it would work in the real world) you can reel the hammer head back in after. Look, I know SM isn't realistic, so maybe this is the wrong way to think about it. I don't think, however, that any energy-free weapons should be added, approved, or buffed until energy as a whole is buffed so that it's not horribly weak. Alex and the balance team are working on fixing this. I'm not trying to shoot down your ideas. It seems cool. I just think it's unrealistic for this weapon to not use energy. Every new energy-free weapon essentially nerfs energy as a whole. Edited April 7, 2021 by SawzAll (see edit history) "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." http://www.puresimplicity.net/~oneeyedcat/misc/supermechs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) On 4/5/2021 at 9:10 PM, Spam said: Take it like this energy weapons have batteries(which makes them heavier) so they can shoot out energy(energy can be taken away by energy) some energy weapons have no energy cost because they make their own energy that's why they generate heat and still weigh more. This is my reason why this could have no energy cost(its from Sawzall's emp slight buff thread, or your thread) I think a Harpoon would make more sense if it were to bring you to the enemy but a hammer would make more sense to push the enemy away by 1 35 minutes ago, SawzAll said: But I don't see how (if we're trying to think of how it would work in the real world) you can reel the hammer head back in after. well you can walk without energy hows that possible? Edited April 7, 2021 by Spam (see edit history) PURPLE Bring Back The Confetti! "Like and follow it'll give me a better reputation" - Spam Stolen from @JamAnime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAME_NOT_FOUND Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Why not just allow grapple weapons the option to not pull the victim close? Its the same thing. Launch a massive claw which bites in for damage, the pulling is just gravy if you want to close range, but sometimes you don't, or if you are already at range 1..the claw still damages the armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, NAME_NOT_FOUND said: Why not just allow grapple weapons the option to not pull the victim close? Its the same thing. Launch a massive claw which bites in for damage, the pulling is just gravy if you want to close range, but sometimes you don't, or if you are already at range 1..the claw still damages the armor. and how much damage does a grappling hook do? between 200 and 130, depending on which hook you are using. a hammer would knock you back and then pull you in again. One Mech to rule them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, MasterChief said: hammer would knock you back and then pull you in again. so it pulls the person in after pushing them? PURPLE Bring Back The Confetti! "Like and follow it'll give me a better reputation" - Spam Stolen from @JamAnime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Just now, Spam said: so it pulls the person in after pushing them? yes. just like a hammer and then a grapple would, but in one move. Spam 1 One Mech to rule them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 5 hours ago, MasterChief said: yes. just like a hammer and then a grapple would, but in one move. so it's a cooler heavier 2 use grappling hook. Also ditching the back fire would be good 6 hours ago, NAME_NOT_FOUND said: Why not just allow grapple weapons the option to not pull the victim close? It wouldn't make sense because the grapple can't let go while pulling or the person would ram into you. MasterChief 1 PURPLE Bring Back The Confetti! "Like and follow it'll give me a better reputation" - Spam Stolen from @JamAnime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Androphonia Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I just don't really see any way that this could be used its pretty good and defo balanced tho I polish rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ChooseGeno said: I just don't really see any way that this could be used its pretty good and defo balanced tho same, but it's nice to see some fanart, the fanart community in this forum has is very small. nvm the only fanart is mostly editing and mine was made in google draw XD Edited April 9, 2021 by Spam (see edit history) PURPLE Bring Back The Confetti! "Like and follow it'll give me a better reputation" - Spam Stolen from @JamAnime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawzAll Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Spam said: it's nice to see some fanart, the fanart community in this forum has is very small. I definitely agree there. "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." http://www.puresimplicity.net/~oneeyedcat/misc/supermechs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I'd give you a like if I had any left. Androphonia 1 PURPLE Bring Back The Confetti! "Like and follow it'll give me a better reputation" - Spam Stolen from @JamAnime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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