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I think there are three main reasons why Frantic Brute (FB here on out) is still hated:
1. It doesn’t feel fair
2. You generally have no recourse against it
3. The builds that use it are annoying
On the first point, despite its large damage spread, FB still hits hard on average (432 avg dmg). Low rolls of course exist (it should be noted that a low roll is only 47 dmg less than a Nightfall low roll), but the high rolls are still quite problematic. With its highest roll, FB hits for 438 through full phys res (180); by comparison, Nightfall would hit the same number on its high roll only if the opponent has 1 phys res. Nightfall of course has an advantage in the long run, but a dual frantic setup compensates for this (and if they roll high enough, the long run advantage pretty much disappears). Taking all this in mind, FB is at worst a diet Nightfall and at best effectively negates 180 phys res.
Following from this, the counterplay for FB is only adding more hp and res (assuming the FB mech is rounded), but as we’ve seen previously, FB has a tendency to negate a good portion of res through sheer force. That’s not to say that the res is useless - it just feels that way if the opponent is lucky. With just two FBs (and typically a recoiler), a mech can sustain itself. The only other case of two-use weapons sustaining themselves as the crux of a build is Valiant Sniper, which has counterplay options. Either stay close, preventing the use of both (or all) of them, or bait the opponent into using them up if you have regen and hp + res to tank it (with the Valiants used, most mechs running then will have exploitable range gaps). With FB, it’s just slapping on hp + res and hoping the opponent doesn’t get lucky - there’s no skill or thought involved for both sides.
Lastly, the mechs that run dual FB + recoiler are typically counters. Counters are themselves not fun, so FB just adds on to poor experience. 

I think there are three main reasons why Frantic Brute (FB here on out) is still hated:
1. It doesn’t feel fair
2. You generally have no recourse against it
3. The builds that use it are annoying
On the first point, despite its large damage spread, FB still hits hard on average (432 avg dmg). Low rolls of course exist (it should be noted that a low roll is only 47 dmg less than a Nightfall low roll), but the high rolls are still quite problematic. With its highest roll, FB hits for 438 through full phys res (180); by comparison, Nightfall would hit the same number on its high roll only if the opponent has 1 phys res. Nightfall of course has an advantage in the long run, but a dual frantic setup compensates for this (and if they roll high enough, the long run advantage pretty much disappears). Taking all this in mind, FB is at worst a diet Nightfall and at best effectively negates 180 phys res.
Following from this, the counterplay for FB is only adding more hp and res (assuming the FB mech is rounded), but as we’ve seen previously, FB has a tendency to negate a good portion of res through sheer force. That’s not to say that the res is useless - it just feels that way if the opponent is lucky. With just two FBs (and typically a recoiler), a mech can sustain itself. The only other case of two-use weapons sustaining themselves as the crux of a build is Valiant Sniper, which has counterplay options. Either stay close, preventing the use of both (or all) of them, or bait the opponent into using them up if you have regen and hp + res to tank it (with the Valiants used, most mechs running then will have exploitable range gaps). With FB, it’s just slapping on hp + res and hoping the opponent doesn’t get lucky - there’s no skill or thought involved for both sides.
Lastly, the mechs that run dual FB + recoiler are typically counters. Counters are themselves not fun, so FB just adds on to poor experience. 

I think there are three main reasons why Frantic Brute (FB here on out) is still hated:
1. It doesn’t feel fair
2. You generally have no recourse against it
3. The builds that use it are annoying
On the first point, despite its large damage spread, FB still hits hard on average (432 avg dmg). Low rolls of course exist (it should be noted that a low roll is only 47 dmg less than a Nightfall low roll), but the high rolls are still quite problematic. With its highest roll, FB hits for 438 through full phys res (180); by comparison, Nightfall would hit the same number on its high roll only if the opponent has 1 phys res. Nightfall of course has an advantage in the long run, but a dual frantic setup compensates for this (and if they roll high enough, the long run advantage pretty much disappears). Taking all this in mind, FB is at worst a diet Nightfall and at best effectively negates 180 phys res.
Following from this, the counterplay for FB is only adding more hp and res (assuming the FB mech is rounded), but as we’ve seen previously, FB has a tendency to negate a good portion of res through sheer force. That’s not to say that the res is useless - it just feels that way if the opponent is lucky. With just two FBs (and typically a recoiler), a mech can sustain itself. The only other case of two-use weapons sustaining themselves as the crux of a build is Valiant Sniper, which has counterplay options. Either stay close, preventing the use of both (or all) of them, or bait the opponent into using them up if you have regen and hp + res to tank it (with the Valiants used, most mechs running then will have exploitable range gaps). With FB, it’s just slapping on hp + res and hoping the opponent doesn’t get lucky - there’s no skill or thought involved for both sides.
Lastly, the mechs that run dual FB + recoiler are typically counters. Counters are themselves not fun, so FB just adds on to poor experience. 

To my knowledge, these players are abusing a bug that allows them to “choose” to match with an account that’s controlled by them, allowing them to farm wins (insta-quits don’t show up in replays iirc). I’ve probably missed something or described this poorly, so if anyone is more educated, feel free to correct me.

To my knowledge, these players are abusing a bug that allows them to “choose” to match with an account that’s controlled by them, allowing them to farm wins (insta-quits don’t show up in replays iirc). I’ve probably missed something or described this poorly, so if anyone is more educated, feel free to correct me.

I liked back when it would roll for 1 damage twice then the noob using it would quit. Does need another rework though for sure.

hello Im ranked!
im 19, working 2 jobs, played SM since 2015
Some people might know me from these few clans ive been in.     WLGang 1 - 4, Metal Reign, USSR onlytop, Immoral Blades, Bound to black (BTB), itty bitty tittie comity, x • Black Death At SM • X,  Legacy only.
Currently play 4ish accounts of my own ™Demon™, Overranked, Velnix and Overranked Exorcist
always open to join top clans even know im not top rank worthy (Rarely get rank 5)    usaully rank 10 - 7
f2p unless somebody i really know offers to get me something
i dont give out account info nor do i EVER trade, since anyone who trades scams
 
Hope this introduction was helpful and ill see yall in Global chat/Arena
or Supermechs Discord server 😁

A couple of things:
1. Base is pretty good once you max out gold mines and get factories to a high level (you unlock power kits at lvl 15 and chance of legendaries at lvl 20), so think twice about reverting to silver boxes.
2. There is a dedicated process for this go to the three lines in the top left corner —> “information” —> “request for base to be disabled” —> submit a post.
3. Do keep in mind that disabling base takes a while, as they’re removed in batches. You’ll probably have to wait a while.

A couple of things:
1. Base is pretty good once you max out gold mines and get factories to a high level (you unlock power kits at lvl 15 and chance of legendaries at lvl 20), so think twice about reverting to silver boxes.
2. There is a dedicated process for this go to the three lines in the top left corner —> “information” —> “request for base to be disabled” —> submit a post.
3. Do keep in mind that disabling base takes a while, as they’re removed in batches. You’ll probably have to wait a while.

A couple of things:
1. Base is pretty good once you max out gold mines and get factories to a high level (you unlock power kits at lvl 15 and chance of legendaries at lvl 20), so think twice about reverting to silver boxes.
2. There is a dedicated process for this go to the three lines in the top left corner —> “information” —> “request for base to be disabled” —> submit a post.
3. Do keep in mind that disabling base takes a while, as they’re removed in batches. You’ll probably have to wait a while.

A couple of things:
1. Base is pretty good once you max out gold mines and get factories to a high level (you unlock power kits at lvl 15 and chance of legendaries at lvl 20), so think twice about reverting to silver boxes.
2. There is a dedicated process for this go to the three lines in the top left corner —> “information” —> “request for base to be disabled” —> submit a post.
3. Do keep in mind that disabling base takes a while, as they’re removed in batches. You’ll probably have to wait a while.

@OKI DOKI, with all due respect, I find it EMBARRASSING that someone of your caliber would display such INCOMPETENCE in mech building. With this thread, you’ve COMPLETELY REVOKED any authority you may have had on meta builds. It’s a DISGRACE, really. Instead, I will supply people with the REAL meta builds, one for each type:

The images provided detail how your claim that TS merged servers a year ago is inconsistent with the time GatoGames acquired SM (a little over two years ago). How you didn’t see this is beyond me, but it nonetheless stands that unless you know of some very special insider knowledge, it would’ve been impossible for the scenario you described to take place.
I was very particular in addressing one (1) claim from Kendall_Tempest. You’ve ignored this, so consider brushing up on your counting skills.

That's not how it works.  You made a claim, now back it up.

Right, where can i begin to cite what is wrong with this post.
 
SuperMechs has multiple servers dependant on where you are in the game: campaign, raid, arena, main menu etc.
In these servers there's also more servers.
 
Player base is really not going down at all, quite the opposite, it's been growing and growing ever since Gato bought out SM from Tacticsoft.
 
"Targeting" doesn't really exist in lower ranks, people that play for longer will, naturally, have the upper hand in having more playtime which leads to better upgraded weapons.
 
Gato's been busy with the development of BattleDawn 2, and an ene buff/revamp is planned after it's release.
 
God Mode has been the biggest balancing problem in legacy, despite being nerfed SIX times, was still meta all throughout legacy until reloaded.
 
Achievements are a 1 time claim. And the battle pass already kind of exists in the form of the token pass for 4.99$.
 
Even if buying specific items WAS added to the game, you wouldn't be able to buy legendary-mythic items, the equivalent of mythics in legacy, which you weren't able to buy. 🙂
 
All of these are really accessible resources.
Coins through OD8, xp through OD6, and tokens through all of these : Ads, daily quests, special quests, raid, portals.
 
People can choose to disable base via the forum application, which will take a few weeks/months since the staff team disables bases in batches, not one at a time.
 
Game is already very successfull with it having dozens of investors, on the financial company site. The community does help the developer (Alex is the only one working on SM, mind you), take for example Raul, Marija or even Elcent who were just like everyone normal SM players, and become administrators on SM.

You see, you would know all of these things if you would be in the discord server where everyone chats and helps, but instead there's tons and tons and tons of the same old "HURRR DURR GAME DEAD XDDDDDD DEVELOPER BAD". Alexander also participates and chats a ton.
The game is constantly being updated server-side and back end, during TS era there were dozens of maintenances and server outages, with gato these became very rare.
And as i previously stated, BD2 is pretty much complete and is in beta from what i heard, so in a few months SM will get more attention.

TL;DR : game not dead lol it has over a million unique monthly logins

Reading this makes me cringe on a whole new level

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I can’t recall regretting fooding something, but for the second question question, I’ve fooded 2 Swoops and 2 Energy Fortresses (already had 3 of both items).

System

I can’t recall regretting fooding something, but for the second question question, I’ve fooded 2 Swoops and 2 Energy Fortresses (already had 3 of both items).

I can’t recall regretting fooding something, but for the second question question, I’ve fooded 2 Swoops and 2 Energy Fortresses (already had 3 of both items).