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SawzAll got a reaction from rc in The “easy” answer to rebalancing?
I respectfully disagree with anyone who says there's only one real solution. There are many different potential solutions.
I'm not saying you aren't welcome to share your opinion. If anything, I'm encouraging everyone to share their opinion.
But I don't think there's any solution that is the only solution. I think there are multiple potential solutions, and Gato Games will decide which is the best.
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SawzAll got a reaction from fig in Torso Mass Buff Thread
Alexander sees things on here. I'll let him make the decision. I think forwarding it to him might be a bit too pushy.
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SawzAll reacted to epicspeedster in i am building a heat mech what parts and mods should i use and is this parts are good?
Build A
pros:
has tele charge and hook
pretty tanky
good heat stats
energy free
cons:
range weakness from 5-9
Build B
pros:
actually has a range 4-8 weapon
energy free
good heat stats
cons:
only tele and hook
a bit less hp
only one weapon for ranges 4-8
I know you're not asking for help, but you don't need hammer if you have recoiler
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SawzAll reacted to fig in Torso Mass Buff Thread
@SawzAll forward this list to Alexander ... Those torsos buff is a must !
In general I am saving some good hopes for the balance changes ...Alex havent bring out something yet ...means he is doing a serius work ...BUT time will saw ...
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SawzAll reacted to CleverName in Current Meta Builds
It would work; I forgot to add the heat and energy variations of the semi energy free counterparts. I would replace bulldog with lightning cutter though.
Something like this; defer to player if they want L-M drone over E-M drone
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SawzAll reacted to fig in Torso Mass Buff Thread
@SawzAll , I made some tests ...I think your recomendation are VERY accurate !
This list looks really ok !!!
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SawzAll got a reaction from fig in Torso Mass Buff Thread
Using math, I have a proposal on how much to buff torsos in order for them to continue to be competitive against the "Thanos" ("monkey") torsos.
This should, in theory, fix what appears to be an imbalance of the importance of raw hit points (like for example why almost no top ranked physical player uses Hollow Spectral). However, this is using math and statistics, so actual further testing would need to be conducted to see if this is a good idea or would hurt the game.
Also, this may cause us to have to reconsider how these torsos work in terms of ascending to Divine. Statistically, the new hit points are calculated in such a way that the "Thanos" torsos are not immediately outclassed. They are still, using these stats, better on paper (i.e. the target score, which is not provided, is 6.2 rather than 6.58 for the Thanos torsos), so that hopefully this won't piss off everyone who worked so hard to max out their Thanos torso.
Please weigh in on the stats I've provided. I'm only suggesting buffing hit points, and leaving all other stats (energy, resistance, etc) alone.
NAME RARITY TYPE LVL NEW HP OLD HP BUFF Fractured Heat Armor Divine HEAT Max 1786 1786 0 Rusty Energy Armor Divine ENRG Max 1786 1786 0 Hollow Spectral Armor Divine PHYS Max 1678 1678 0 EnergyFree Armor Divine PHYS Max 1441 1441 0 Avenger Divine PHYS Max 1473 1306 167 Battery Armor Divine PHYS Max 1299 1284 15 Energy Battery Armor Divine ENRG Max 1182 1177 5 Flame Battery Armor Divine HEAT Max 1193 1177 16 Sabertooth Divine HEAT Max 1308 1219 89 Zarkares Divine HEAT Max 1323 1177 146 Archimond Divine PHYS Max 1267 1152 115 Brutality Divine HEAT Max 1199 1070 129 Lightning Platinum Vest Divine ENRG Max 1168 1054 114 Molten Platinum Vest Divine HEAT Max 1168 1054 114 Naga Divine ENRG Max 1174 1017 157 Sith Divine ENRG Max 1122 963 159 Windigo Divine HEAT Max 1180 1017 163 Nightmare Divine HEAT Max 1055 910 145 Interceptor Divine PHYS Max 1065 884 181 Hardened Platinum Vest Divine PHYS Max 1140 960 180 Grim Reaper Divine ENRG Max 1068 910 158 -
SawzAll reacted to Addictive gamer in i am building a heat mech what parts and mods should i use and is this parts are good?
i first one a very nice build but dont have the desoluton and the problem is with sec one is the top weapon
thanks buddy i try to remember this guide.
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SawzAll got a reaction from fig in Multiple accounts
At my level, I haven't seen any advantages yet. But sure, I'm not a high ranking player yet.
Given the prevalence of TPM in computer and phone design, I tentatively, cautiously, recommend the PC software and the app read the TPM ID. That way, even if someone is using a proxy, the machine code that's using it can be read and compared. That way certain behavior (if there is some alt account trickery going on) can be minimized, if Gato Games wants to do something about it.
I think this is a conversation where, philosophically, Gato Games will have to decide what they want to do. Alt account detection could become a "cat and mouse" game where proxy use and TPM ID masking could go back and forth. This could go on forever. It's up to Gato Games to decide what level they want to take it, what level is productive and what is not.
I would recommend that it's not a "yes or no" situation. I would say instead that those who are using alt accounts to the benefit of Gato Games should be allowed to continue doing so, even being "validated" as being good players over time. Then if they are good players and aren't using their alt to tamper with arena stats or whatever they're doing, be given the privilege to move items back and forth. Because, again, there are multiple valid meta if you look at the top 10. I personally would have one account with a truly energy-free config, then my current config that will eventually become dual valiant energy, heat hugger, and CleverJumper physical. My alt account would have an energy free. I can't think of any current meta right now but my alt would have some of them.
And if they would move towards giving me, someone who doesn't hack or arena tamper, the right to move items in between, I'd subscribe both accounts to the $5/month thing.
I think the alt account thing, whether good or bad, is more based on the person doing it and what they use it for than the concept itself. I can't say the concept of alt accounts is good or bad, so banning them all I think is bad. But I can see some people using them for bad, so I think it's the player being evil, not that alt accounts are themselves evil.
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SawzAll reacted to CleverName in Current Meta Builds
In this thread, I’ll post what I believe to be the best builds in the game (meta builds). Everyone is welcome to post and debate meta builds.
META = Most Effective Tactics Available (i.e. what's the best build in game to help you climb the ladder in arena and have the highest win rate). I've excluded "popular" builds that aren't really "meta." I'm defining meta as the best builds in their respective element and must at a minimum be able to achieve Rank 1 full stars (and preferably have the highest win rate possible). The "best" builds are of my own opinion from arena testing.
Note this isn’t a build help thread. If you need build help, please go there. If you want to view older meta/top-tier builds, please go here.
I will maintain this thread for as long as I have the motivation 🙂
Last updated: 5/13/2021
Best Build in Game:
“Best Heat”
PHYSICAL
Best Physical
HEAT
Best Heat
Boiler
Dual Magma
ENERGY
Best Energy
Dual Brightroar
Dual Bunker
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SawzAll reacted to CleverName in Current Meta Builds
That build is fine, but yes, weaker to energy versus 4.1k hp version. Reason why I think mercy version is better is that it's energy free with no backfire and higher damage. I found that for this build specifically running without energy resistance still has nice win rate, but energy fights were tough sometimes. For most of the physical builds, it's up to pilot if they want to run energy resistance or not.
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SawzAll reacted to fig in Torso Mass Buff Thread
Not bad ...on the limits .
And yes I agree stats to remain the same .
But yes right , they need at least 200hps buff plus !
Practically this buff wont make em usable I think .
Thanks !
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SawzAll got a reaction from CDR_Xavier in - - - F l e x - T h r e a d - - -
I'm at an arena rank where NOT having about every item at mythical status results in losing. Right now I'm working up a magma recoiler and firefly drone, and they're legendary. So far it hasn't hurt me too much because my torso, legs, corrupt light and savagery are mythical. And I have two mythical heat engines. But I am working very hard to mythical the firefly and magma recoiler quickly.
I may replace my mythical flaming hammer with a chaos bringer for a short time only because hammers are heavy and I want to ultimately have a Terror Blade. But I'm being careful because, though arena rank isn't everything, I'd rather not lose a lot, as I like to earn my daily tasks (3 wins a day).
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SawzAll got a reaction from CDR_Xavier in Torso Mass Buff Thread
Using math, I have a proposal on how much to buff torsos in order for them to continue to be competitive against the "Thanos" ("monkey") torsos.
This should, in theory, fix what appears to be an imbalance of the importance of raw hit points (like for example why almost no top ranked physical player uses Hollow Spectral). However, this is using math and statistics, so actual further testing would need to be conducted to see if this is a good idea or would hurt the game.
Also, this may cause us to have to reconsider how these torsos work in terms of ascending to Divine. Statistically, the new hit points are calculated in such a way that the "Thanos" torsos are not immediately outclassed. They are still, using these stats, better on paper (i.e. the target score, which is not provided, is 6.2 rather than 6.58 for the Thanos torsos), so that hopefully this won't piss off everyone who worked so hard to max out their Thanos torso.
Please weigh in on the stats I've provided. I'm only suggesting buffing hit points, and leaving all other stats (energy, resistance, etc) alone.
NAME RARITY TYPE LVL NEW HP OLD HP BUFF Fractured Heat Armor Divine HEAT Max 1786 1786 0 Rusty Energy Armor Divine ENRG Max 1786 1786 0 Hollow Spectral Armor Divine PHYS Max 1678 1678 0 EnergyFree Armor Divine PHYS Max 1441 1441 0 Avenger Divine PHYS Max 1473 1306 167 Battery Armor Divine PHYS Max 1299 1284 15 Energy Battery Armor Divine ENRG Max 1182 1177 5 Flame Battery Armor Divine HEAT Max 1193 1177 16 Sabertooth Divine HEAT Max 1308 1219 89 Zarkares Divine HEAT Max 1323 1177 146 Archimond Divine PHYS Max 1267 1152 115 Brutality Divine HEAT Max 1199 1070 129 Lightning Platinum Vest Divine ENRG Max 1168 1054 114 Molten Platinum Vest Divine HEAT Max 1168 1054 114 Naga Divine ENRG Max 1174 1017 157 Sith Divine ENRG Max 1122 963 159 Windigo Divine HEAT Max 1180 1017 163 Nightmare Divine HEAT Max 1055 910 145 Interceptor Divine PHYS Max 1065 884 181 Hardened Platinum Vest Divine PHYS Max 1140 960 180 Grim Reaper Divine ENRG Max 1068 910 158 -
SawzAll got a reaction from Exquisite Phosphorus in - - - F l e x - T h r e a d - - -
Tonight's PP run. Firefly is an interesting addition.
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SawzAll reacted to Fluffeh in Personality Test
I won't kill you (yet), but I certainly have a lot to say about the Myers–Briggs Type Indicator. 😄
I'd describe it as protoscientific. I'd be remiss if I dismissed its historical value entirely, but it's based on a Jungan theory from 1921, when psychology as a science was very much still in its infancy. The Big Five model has been the academic standard for over 30 years now with much more and much stronger empirical evidence than Jungian theory has ever had, so I'd really take the modern MBTI with a big grain of salt.
It's important to note that the modern MBTI is foremost a business product and not an academic instrument. The Myers–Briggs Company specifically disclaims clinical usage and comparisons with other personality inventories on the basis that it assesses normal personalities and not personality disorders. In my opinion though, that misrepresents the field of personality research as being equivalent to just psychopathology. For example, the NEO Personality Inventory-3, the current standard inventory for Big5, was specifically designed to assess normal personalities. Moreover, much of the research about the MBTI is published by a journal that specifically says its purpose is to promote Jungan theory rather than to advance the field overall.
That being said, Big5 isn't the only model of personality with academic acceptance anymore. A six-factor model called the HEXACO model has been gaining traction in the last 10 years. For anyone interested, the academics behind HEXACO published a book called The H Factor of Personality: Why Some People are Manipulative, Self-Entitled, Materialistic, and Exploitive—And Why It Matters for Everyone. It's a good layman's introduction to HEXACO but also to the overall history and theory behind modern personality research.
I'd say the most important thing to keep in mind, especially with all of the weaknesses with the MBTI, is to not let yourself be boxed in by the label you've been given. Personality inventories are descriptive, not prescriptive, and 16Personalities in particular specifically disclaims all usage except for entertainment and information, so in my eyes it's about as valid as the horoscope section of a newspaper. For something more useful, I'd recommend either the International Personality Item Pool Representation of the NEO Personality Inventory-Revised or the HEXACO Personality Inventory-Revised. 😄
In any case, though:
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SawzAll got a reaction from fig in Multiple accounts
Given the fact that Netflix and other companies have tried repeatedly to eliminate this, and their success has never been spectacular, I don't think it's something we should ask Gato Games to spend an inordinate amount of time doing.
I say what accounts they can prove are alternate, if it messes with the game, they can choose to delete if they feel like it. I'm sure they can handle it when it becomes a problem, and they know what they're doing.
For now I think we just ignore it.
Besides, if I only get 3 mechs, and my inventory is limited in this game (unless you're rich and buy more inventory), I don't see a single problem with someone having alternate accounts.
If anything, given the synergy of the mechs in the higher ranks when you are using three mechs of the same kind (heat energy or physical) I can totally see alternate accounts being valid. If all your heat mechs are draining capacity, they all work together in 3v3, etc.
I can totally see myself having an alternate account in SM, though I don't have one yet. I would make it a bunch of interesting and different builds, like energy free for example, or dual desolation, etc.
EDIT: and even if SM decides to allow my idea of gifting or trading items, alternate accounts would be even more cool. If I make an alternate account, for example, I will subscribe BOTH of them to the $5/month token system. Then if I'm building one account to be energy free, and my other account gets desolations or other cool weapons, i can trade or gift them to my alt energy free account where they will do good, and trade/gift the non-energy-free items over to my main account.
I just got done playing my best rendition of energy free using EFA armor on the 1V1 campaign today and I love the concept. Don't be surprised if I create an alternate account very soon. This would mean more money for SM.
EDIT2: If anything, SM should encourage alternate accounts (just one) and allow you to link your main account to your alternate account if you can verify your identity on both. Like I said, it would be twice the money for SM.
And don't bother with the whole "pay to win" bull krap. The people who made SM are programmers with bills to pay and potentially families to feed. I think $5/month is totally valid: we pay more for Netflix.
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SawzAll reacted to firewater789 in Energy Free Selfish Protector
Looking at the meta right now physical Mechs are taking over and if we add en free physical drone it’s going to be broken.
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SawzAll got a reaction from Liam.M.Lucas_2020 in What taste better potatoes or apple pie
I don't like Apple Pie, so Potatoes.
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SawzAll got a reaction from bumbum in - - - F l e x - T h r e a d - - -
My first platinum plating. I was so excited I forgot to take a picture, so here's how far I've upgraded it just today. It went in my physical mech because that one doesn't have a monkey torso yet....
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SawzAll got a reaction from epicspeedster in - - - F l e x - T h r e a d - - -
My first platinum plating. I was so excited I forgot to take a picture, so here's how far I've upgraded it just today. It went in my physical mech because that one doesn't have a monkey torso yet....
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SawzAll got a reaction from epicspeedster in Buff Naga
I am proposing an alternative, and I think his proposal of 220 hp across the board to all those torsos isn't good. It fails to take into account that some of those older torsos are already pretty sucky, and would need more HP to make them worth using, versus others are already pretty good and would only need a gentle nudge.
My figures are based on running statistical numbers to guess at what point they would be worth using versus a monkey torso. I can provide the equation if desired.
EDIT: Also, if you want I can provide numbers for all the torsos in one new thread....
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SawzAll reacted to CDR_Xavier in Maxed Mythical Listing
Items that need updating:
Windforge
physics fortress
explosive fortress
damage heatbomb
overloaded emp
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Welcome to the Maxed Mythicals Listing!
Legend:
Items with * next to the name only drop at Legendary Level.
Items with ↑ next to the name require you to equip legs with jump.
HP = hitpoint Eng = energy Reg = Regeneration Het = Heat Col = Cooling Dmg = Damage Phy = Physical Exp = Explosive Ele = Electric Res = Resistance Psh = push Pul = Pull Rec = Recoil Jmp = Jump
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Torsos
INTERCEPTOR (309) 860 HP 193 Eng 56 Reg 265 Het 80 Col 16PhyRes 22ExpRes 22EleRes ARCHIMOND* (363) 1090 HP 265 Eng 76 Reg 265 Het 76 Col 22PhyRes 22ExpRes 22EleRes AVENGER (350) 1271 HP 193 Eng 64 Reg 145 Het 48 Col 16PhyRes 22ExpRes 22EleRes HOLLOW ARMOR* (370) 1589 HP 241 Eng 80 Reg 241 Het 80 Col ENERGY FREE ARMOR* (335) 1343 HP 25 Eng 8 Reg 223 Het 80 Col 24PhyRes 24ExpRes 24EleRes BATTERY ARMOR (360) 1239 HP 361 Eng 24 Reg 334 Het 24 Col 14PhyRes 14ExpRes 14EleRes HARDENED PLATINUM VEST* (346) 908 HP 193 Eng 64 Reg 289 Het 96 Col 16PyhRes 22ExpRes 44EleRes NIGHTMARE (315) 879 HP 193 Eng 64 Reg 290 Het 96 Col 22PhyRes 16ExpRes 22EleRes BRUTALITY (341) 1033 HP 217 Eng 64 Reg 290 Het 88 Col 22PhyRes 16ExpRes 22EleRes WINDIGO (345) 1167 HP 217 Eng 72 Reg 301 Het 112 Col 30PhyRes 16ExpRes 22EleRes MOLTEN PLATINUM VEST* (346) 1153 HP 193 Eng 64 Reg 267 Het 96 Col 55PhyRes 16ExpRes 22EleRes FLAME BATTERY ARMOR (346) 1136 HP 313 Eng 24 Reg 401 Het 24 Col 14PhyRes 14ExpRes 14EleRes ZARKARES (362) 1136 HP 193 Eng 64 Reg 312 Het 112 Col 16PhyRes 24ExpRes 16EleRes SABRETOOTH (ZARK) (362) 1136 HP 193 Eng 64 Reg 312 Het 112 Col 16PhyRes 24ExpRes 16EleRes FRACTURE ARMOR* (370) 1664 HP 193 Eng 64 Reg 267 Het 96 Col SITH (321) 930 HP 245 Eng 112 Reg 193 Het 64 Col 22PhyRes 22ExpRes 16EleRes GRIM REAPER (329) 879 HP 346 Eng 112 Reg 193 Het 64 Col 22PhyRes 22ExpRes 16EleRes NAGA (335) 982 HP 279 Eng 104 Reg 193 Het 72 Col 22PhyRes 22ExpRes 16EleRes LIGHTNING PLATINUM VEST*(346) 982 HP 267 Eng 96 Reg 193 Het 64 Col 44PhyRes 22ExpRes 16EleRes ENERGY BATTERY ARMOR (346) 1136 HP 433 Eng 24 Reg 290 Het 24 Col 14PhyRes 14ExpRes 14EleRes RUSTY ENERGY ARMOR* (370) 1664 HP 267 Eng 96 Reg 193 Het 64 Col ________________________________________
Legs
_______PHYSICAL_______ GRAVE DIGGERS (123) 2 Jmp 287 HP 223-285 PhyDmg 2 Psh MASSIVE STONE FEET (132) 2 Jmp 526 HP 144-232 PhyDmg -10 PhyRes 1 Psh +14 PhyRes ROLLING BEASTS* (134) 3 Wlk 451 HP 160-242 PhyDmg 1 Psh IRON BOOTS (138) 2 Jmp 478 HP 163-213 PhyDmg 1 Psh THE CLAW* (150) 860 HP 79-111 PhyDmg _______EXPLOSIVE_______ MASSIVE LAVA FEET (117) 2 Jmp 466 HP 127-205 ExpDmg 36 ExpDmg -10 ExpRes 1 Psh +14 ExpRes DEVOURING PAWS (119) 2 Jmp 394 HP 140-220 ExpDmg 44 ExpDmg 1 Psh SCORCHING FEET (120) 2 Jmp 413 HP 143-187 ExpDmg 36 ExpDmg 1 Psh DYNAMITE BOOTS (136) 2 Jmp 413 HP 133-224 ExpDmg 29 ExpDmg 2 Psh _______ENERGY_______ SPARKED RUNNERS* (114) 3 Wlk 363 HP 135-249 EleDmg 38 EngDmg 1 Psh DYNAMIC STOMPERS (118) 2 Jmp 372 HP 154-217 EleDmg 58 EngDmg 1 Psh MASSIVE SHOCKER FEET(118) 2 Jmp 466 HP 127-205 EleDmg 48 EngDmg -10 EleRes 1 Psh +14 EleRes CHARGED WALKERS (122) 2 Jmp 413 HP 143-187 EleDmg 48 EngDmg 1 Psh LIGHTNING SUPPORTERS(124) 2 Jmp 413 HP 127-192 EleDmg 67 EngDng 1 Psh RECOIL STOMPERS (138) 2 Jmp 413 HP 140-216 EleDmg 38 EngDmg 2 Psh ________________________________________
Modules
COOLING MASS BOOSTER (15) 63 Col ENERGY MASS BOOSTER (15) 63 Reg OVERLOAD PREVENTOR* (25) 68 Reg 68 Col HEAT ENGINE (25) 89 Het 42 Col ENERGY ENGINE (25) 89 Eng 42 Reg QUAD CORE BOOSTER* (40) 97 Eng 46 Reg 89 Het 46 Col HEAT STORAGE UNIT* (22) 134 Het ENERGY STORAGE UNIT* (22) 134 Eng COMBINED STORAGE UNIT (40) 121 Eng 112 Het COMBINED ENGINE UNIT* (35) 145 Eng 134 Het ULTRAHOT PROTECTOR* (28) 59 ExpRes SUPERCHARGE PROTECTOR* (28) 59 EleRes MIGHTY PROTECTOR* (28) 59 PhyRes DEFENSE MATRIX* (60) 170 HP 39 AllRes ENERGY FORTRESS* (40) 158 HP 64 EleRes MAXIMUM PROTECTOR* (51) 39 AllRes SAVIOR RESISTANCE (51) 16 AllRes PLATINUM PLATING* (40) 315 HP IRON PLATING (40) 145 HP ________________________________________
Special
ADVANCED TELEPORTER* (11) 103-135 EleDmg 48 EngDmg 1 Use (31/0) DOUBLE TELEPORTER* (26) 2 Uses (20/0) CHARGE ENGINE (20) 132-174 PhyDmg 1 Psh 1 Use (0/0) SUPERB CHARGE ENGINE* (23) 264-345 PhyDmg 1 Psh 1 Use (0/0) PLATINUM GRAPPLING HOOK* (17) 143-187 PhyDmg 1 Use (0/0) SHOCKING GRAPPLING HOOK* (11) 103-135 EleDmg 48 EngDmg 1 Use (31/0) FLAMING GRAPPLING HOOK* (16) 111-145 ExpDmg 39 HetDmg 1 Use (0/31) ________________________________________
Drones
______ELETRIC______ WINDFORGE* (27) 55-90 EleDmg 76 EngDmg -5 EleRes (31/0) TORMENT (29) 97-141 EleDmg 48 EngDmg -12 MaxEng (31/0) SNACK (30) 103-135 EleDmg 48 EngDmg -6 EleRes (31/0) ANGUISH* (30) 86-153 EleDmg 48 EngDmg -7 Reg (31/0) FACE SHOCKER (41) 163-213 EleDmg 76 EngDmg -6 EleRes 3 Use (50/0) UNRELIABLE PROTECTOR(42) 134-237 EleDmg 76 EngDmg -5 EleRes (50/0) 87 Bkf ELECTROLYTE (47) 134-244 EleDmg 76 EngDmg -6 EleRes 2-4 Range (50/0) UNRELIABLE GUARDIAN*(48) 139-252 EleDmg 91 EngDng -5 EleRes (69/0) 98 Bkf RAIL GUN* (50) 151-276 EleDmg 86 EngDmg -7 EleRes 3-6 Range (50/0) SHOCKWAVE* (51) 139-183 EleDmg 49 EngDmg 1 Psh (31/0) ______PHYSICAL______ GREEDY* (20) 72-117 PhyDmg -10 PhyRes (16/16) HURLBAT (28) 135-196 PhyDmg -6 MaxHea -6 MaxEng (16/16) DUSTMAKER* (29) 120-213 PhyDmg -4 Coolin -4 EngReg (16/16) VOID (29) 143-187 PhyDmg -6 PhyRes (16/16) TONTO (40) 184-336 PhyDmg -9 PhyRes 2-4 Range (25/25) SOLAR TORCH* (40) 193-348 PhyDmg -9 PhyRes 3-6 Range (25/25) SELFISH PROTECTOR (42) 201-359 PhyDmg -5 PhyRes (16/16) 108 Bkf SELFISH GUARDIAN* (48) 215-379 PhyDmg -5 PhyRes (16/16) 130 Bkf BACKSTABBER* (51) 163-263 PhyDmg 1 Pul (16/16) _______EXPLOSIVE_______ SWOOP* (22) 86-121 ExpDmg 92 HetDmg -5 ExpRes (31/31) CLASH (43) 103-135 ExpDmg 36 HetDmg -6 ExpRes (0/31) NEMO (43) 97-141 ExpDmg 41 HetDmg -20 MaxHet (0/31) MURMUR* (43) 86-153 ExpDmg 36 HetDmg -7 Col (0/31) BACKSTABBING PROTECTOR(43) 126-226 ExpDmg 50 HetDmg -5 ExpRes (0/50) 87 Bkf BACKSTABBING GUARDIAN*(48) 134-244 ExpDmg 58 HetDmg -6 ExpRes (0/62) 101 Bkf FIREFLY (50) 134-242 ExpDmg 48 HetDmg -5 ExpRes 2-4 Range (0/50) FLAME SPEAR* (50) 142-259 ExpDmg 54 HetDmg -7 ExpRes 3-6 Range (0/50) FLAMEWAVE* (51) 84-154 ExpDmg 45 HetDmg 1 Psh (0/31) HEATPOINT (51) 161-211 ExpDmg 48 HetDmg -6 ExpRes 3 Use (0/50) ________________________________________
Physical Top Weapon
NIGHT EAGLE (46) 209-336 PhyDmg 1 Pul 3-6 Range 3 Use (25/25) SPARTAN CARNAGE* (51) 226-387 PhyDmg -15 PhyRes 3-6 Range 3 Use (31/31) FRANTIC BRUTE (50) 199-500 PhyDmg -12 PhyRes 3-6 Range 2 Use (30/70) RECKLESS BEAM (35) 235-355 PhyDmg 4-8 Range (25/25) DESERT FURY* (29) 154-224 PhyDmg -23 PhyRes 4-8 Range 2 Use (16/16) MIGHTY CANNON* (55) 239-408 PhyDmg 1 Pul 4-8 Range (38/38) DISTANCE SHREDDER*↑(42) 228-408 PhyDmg -5 PhyRes 1 Psh/3 Jmp 4-8 Range 2 Use (0/100) COCKPIT PIERCER* (27) 540-866 PhyDmg -10 PhyRes 1 Psh 7 Range 1 Use (22/22) FALCON* (19) 596-997 PhyDmg 8 Range 1 Use (22/22) LAZY FALCON* (30) 611-980 PhyDmg -10 PhyRes 8 Range (0/0) -490 BF ________________________________________
Physical Side Weapons
BACKBREAKER (44) 228-408 PhyDmg -8 ColReg 1 Psh 1 Range (31/31) WAR HAMMER (58) 254-427 PhyDmg -24 MaxHet -24MaxEngHet 3 Psh 1 Range (31/31) PERIMETER PROTECTOR*↑ (31) 152-273 PhyDmg -5 PhyRes -6 Jump 1-2 Range 2 Use ( 0/38) ROCK POLISHER* (36) 212-423 PhyDmg -15 PhyRes 1 Jump 1-2 Range ( 0/62) 144 Bkf DISINTEGRATION* (47) 202-362 PhyDmg -15 PhyRes 1-2 Range 3 Use ( 0/ 0) 100 Bkf SERAPHBLADE* (49) 234-376 PhyDmg -12 PhyRes 1 Jump 1-2 Range (13/50) ROCK RECOILER (65) 212-423 PhyDmg -10 PhyRes 1 Psh/1 Rec 1-2 Range 3 Use (25/38) ANNIHILATION (65) 203-341 PhyDmg -15 PhyRes 1-2 Range 3 Use ( 0/ 0) MERCY* (84) 197-440 PhyDmg -10 PhyRes 1 Psh 1-2 Range 3 Use ( 0/ 0) ADVANCED REPULSER* (18) 72-95 PhyDmg 4 Psh 2-4 Range 2 Use ( 0/62) ARMOR ANNIHILATOR* (20) 41-55 PhyDmg -50 PhyRes 2-4 Range 1 Use ( 0/ 0) SACRIFICE CANNON (24) 209-520 PhyDmg -12 PhyRes 1 Psh 2-4 Range 1 Use (31/31) 123Bkf PURIFIER* (25) 184-241 PhyDmg 2-4 Range 2 Use ( 0/ 0) UNREPAIRED LASER CANNON↑(27) 216-347 PhyDmg -1 Jmp↑ 2-4 Range (31/31) 72 Bkf NIGHTFALL (49) 237-355 PhyDmg -11 PhyRes 2-4 Range 3 Use (31/31) BLOODWEEP* (34) 147-209 PhyDmg -30 PhyRes 2-4 Range 3 Use (31/31) TERROR CRY (46) 241-358 PhyDmg 1 Psh 2-4 Range 3 Use (25/25) DARK EAGLE* (60) 181-456 PhyDmg -10 PhyRes 1 Psh 1 Rec 2-4 Range 3 Use (25/38) MALFUNCTIONING BLASTER* (28) 244-391 PhyDmg -13 PhyRes 3-6 Range (0/162) 159 Bkf SWEETIE* (42) 169-256 PhyDmg -10 PhyRes 3-6 Range 3 Use ( 0/31) EJECTION BLAST*↑ (34) 228-408 PhyDmg -5 PhyRes 1 Psh -2 Jmp↑ 3-6 Range 2 Use (31/31) LAST RESORT VULCAN* (52) 216-478 PhyDmg -20 PhyRes 3-6 Range 2 Use (31/ 0) 180 Bkf ________________________________________
Energy Top Weapons
GRIM COBRA (63) 181-290 EleDmg 95 EngDmg -13 Reg 1 Pul 3-6 Range 3 Use (47/16) FRANTIC LIGHTNING (50) 76-451 EleDmg 95 EngDmg -10 EleRes 3-6 Range 2 Use (81/13) HYSTERIA (55) 169-252 EleDmg 129 EngDmg -24 MaxEng 4-8 Range (47/16) V. SNIPER* (51) 126-183 EleDmg 189 EngDmg -13 Reg -17 EleRes 4-8 Range 2 Use (31/ 0) SPINEFALL* (67) 192-329 EleDmg 105 EngDmg -13 Reg 1 Pul 4-8 Range (75/25) DELERIUM* (56) 214-289 EleDmg 95 EngDmg -12 EleRes (47/16) PARTY CRASHER*↑ (43) 203-347 EleDmg 48 EngDmg -5 EleRes 1 Psh 3 Jmp 4-8 Range 2 Use (0/100) COCKPIT ELECTROCUTER*(27) 414-666 EleDmg 218 EngDmg -10 EleRes 1 Psh 7 Range 1 Use (124/31) LIGHTNING SCOPE* (23) 568-741 EleDmg 283 EngDmg -15 EleRes 8 Range 1 Use (155/31) ELECTROCUTED SCOPE* (30) 503-807 EleDmg 283 EngDmg -15 EleRes 8 Range (62/ 0) 378 Bkf ________________________________________
Energy Side Weapon
DISTANCE GENERATOR*↑(35) 135-241 EleDmg 63 EngDmg -5 EleRes -6 Jmp 1-2 Range 2 Use (31/0 ) UNSTABLE POWER* (42) 144-232 EleDmg 246 EngDmg -48 MaxEng 1-2 Range 2 Use (19/31) 152 Bkf BRIGHTROAR* (45) 193-311 EleDmg 103 EngDmg -9 EleRes 1 Jmp 1-2 Range (50/13) BIGDADDY* (53) 202-265 EleDmg 152 EngDmg 1-2 Range 3 Use (47/16) STORMWEAVER* (56) 244-319 EleDmg 114 EngDmg -32 MaxEng 1 Psh 1 Range (50/13) ASH CREATOR* (58) 163-213 EleDmg 180 EngDmg -48 MaxEng 1-2 Range 3 Use (93/31) VIKING HAMMER (63) 211-354 EleDmg 114 EngDmg -17 Reg 3 Psh 1 Range (50/13) LIGHTNING RECOIL (69) 173-350 EleDmg 67 EngDmg -10 EleRes 1 Psh 1 Rec 1-2 Range 3 Use (56/25) BULLDOG* (73) 182-406 EleDmg 67 EngDmg -10 EleRes 1 Psh 1-2 Range 3 Use (31/0 ) BLIZZARD DISSOLVER (24) 34- 70 EleDmg 63 EngDmg -50 EleRes 2-4 Range 1 Use ( 0/ 0) DRUNK LIGHTNING (27) 155-390 EleDmg 123 EngDmg -12 EleRes 1 Psh 2-4 Range 1 Use (81/62) 123 Bkf EMP (70) 37- 61 EleDmg 334 EngDmg 2-4 Range 1 Use (393/0) MORTAL BULLET* (56) 168-218 EleDmg 133 EngDmg -12 MaxEng 2-4 Range (31/0 ) LAST WORDS (63) 185-285 EleDmg 95 EngDmg -13 Reg 1 Psh 2-4 Range 3 Use (47/16) BUNKER SHELL* (50) 243-463 EleDmg 123 EngDmg -17 Reg -30 MaxEng -13 EleRes 1 Psh 2-4 Range 1 Use (31/ 0) OBSOLETE E. CANNON↑ (43) 181-290 EleDmg 95 EngDmg -1 Jmp 2-4 Range (47/16) 72 Bkf PIERCING FOX* (64) 147-376 EleDmg 67 EngDmg -10 EleRes 1 Psh 1 Rec 2-4 Range 3 Use (56/25) EVAC SPARK*↑ (37) 164-337 EleDmg 76 EngDmg -5 EleRes 1 Psh -2 Jmp 3-6 Range 2 Use (44/19) SCRAPPED E. BLASTER* (42) 209-336 EleDmg 142 EngDmg -7 EleRes 3-6 Range 3 Use (143/0) 173 Bkf MALICE BEAM (55) 140-236 EleDmg 123 EngDmg -24 MaxEng 3-6 Range (47/16) ULTRABRIGHT (56) 203-265 EleDmg 95 EngDmg -5 EleRes 3-6 Range (47/16) HOT FLASH (66) 148-228 EleDmg 142 EngDmg -24 MaxEng 3-6 Range (0/110) HYBRID ENERGY CANNON*(66) 156-269 EleDmg 139 EngDmg -39 MaxEng 3-6 Range (0/104) ________________________________________
Explosive Top Weapons
RED RAIN* (65) 216-341 ExpDmg 106 HetDmg -19 Col 2 Pul 2-4 Range 2 Use (30/81) SUPREME CANNON (66) 205-315 ExpDmg 71 HetDmg -12 ExpRes 1 Psh 3-6 Range 3 Use (19/44) FRANTIC FLAME (50) 76-470 ExpDmg 78 HetDmg -10 ExpRes 3-6 Range 2 Use (10/81) VANDAL RAGE (41) 143-187 ExpDmg 44 HetDmg -46 Col -20 ExpRes 1 Psh 4-5 Range 1 Use (0/25 ) DESOLATION (66) 210-310 ExpDmg 48 HetDmg -10 ExpRes 4-8 Range 3 Use (0/56 ) IRON FRENZY* (52) 203-265 ExpDmg 71 HetDmg -5 ExpRes 4-8 Range (16/47) DESERT SNAKE* (63) 192-329 ExpDmg 71 HetDmg -7 Col 1 Pul 4-8 Range (25/75) SAVAGERY (51) 154-232 ExpDmg 106 HetDmg -30 MaxHet 4-8 Range (16/47) BURNING SHOWER* (75) 173-345 ExpDmg 86 HetDmg -10 Col -12 ExpRes 2 Pul 4-8 Range 3 Use (0/81 ) SPACE INVADER*↑ (41) 203-337 ExpDmg 36 HetDmg -5 ExpRes 1 Psh 3 Jmp 4-8 Range 2 Use (0/100) COCKPIT BURNER (27) 394-654 ExpDmg 177 HetDmg -12 ExpRes 1 Psh 7 Range 1 Use (31/155) FLAMING SCOPE* (21) 568-741 ExpDmg 212 HetDmg -15 ExpRes 8 Range 1 Use (31/155) HALF BURNT SCOPE*(30) 503-807 ExpDmg 212 HetDmg -15 ExpRes 8 Range ( 0/100) 468 Bkf ________________________________________
Explosive Side Weapons
DISTANCE CONTROLLER↑(34) 135-241 ExpDmg 44 HetDmg -5 ExpRes -6 Jmp 1-2 Range 2 Use ( 0/31) HERONMARK* (43) 193-311 ExpDmg 78 HetDmg -9 ExpRes 1 Jmp 1-2 Range (13/50) BASALT POLISHER* (45) 181-362 ExpDmg 86 HetDmg -10 ExpRes 1 Jmp 1-2 Range ( 0/62) 144 Bkf TERRORBLADE* (52) 244-319 ExpDmg 106 HetDmg -51 MxHt 1 Psh 1 Range (13/50) FLAMING HAMMER (60) 229-384 ExpDmg 86 HetDmg -20 Col 3 Psh 1 Range (13/50) OVERCOOKING OVEN* (43) 144-232 ExpDmg 177 HetDmg -48 MxHt 1-2 Range 2 Use (31/19) 152 Bkf CHAOS BRINGER* (49) 224-286 ExpDmg 114 HetDmg 1-2 Range 3 Use (16/31) CRIMSON RAPTURE* (52) 163-213 ExpDmg 135 HetDmg -48 MxHt 1-2 Range 3 Use (31/93) RECKONING* (86) 182-406 ExpDmg 50 HetDmg -10 Res 1 Psh 1-2 Range 3 Use ( 0/31) MAGMA RECOILER (64) 173-350 ExpDmg 50 HetDmg -10 ExpRes 1 Psh 1 Rec 1-2 Range 3 Use (25/56) BASALT DISSOLVER (23) 32-65 ExpDmg 44 HetDmg -45 ExpRes 2-4 Range 1 Use ( 0/ 0) CRACKED PLASMA CANNON↑(37) 181-290 ExpDmg 71 HetDmg -1 Jmp 2-4 Range (16/47) 72Bkf BROKEN DEVOURER (26) 155-390 ExpDmg 93 HetDmg -12 ExpRes 2-4 Range 1 Use (13/81) 123Bkf MAGMA BLAST* (55) 211-403 ExpDmg 79 HetDmg -17 Col -30 MaxHet -13 ExpRes 1 Psh 2-4 Range 1 Use ( 0/31) SORROW* (66) 163-213 ExpDmg 93 HetDmg -12 MaxHet 2-4 Range ( 0/31) ABOMINATION* (66) 212-307 ExpDmg 71 HetDmg -12 ExpRes 1 Psh 2-4 Range 3 Use (19/44) HEAT BOMB (50) 40-59 ExpDmg 393 HetDmg 2-4 Range 1 Use (0/393) SHADOW WOLF* (60) 147-376 ExpDmg 50 HetDmg -10 ExpRes 1 Psh 1 Rec 2-4 Range 3 Use (25/56) EXPLOSIVE RETREAT*↑ (35) 164-337 ExpDmg 58 HetDmg -5 ExpRes -2 Jmp 1 Psh 3-6 Range 2 Use (19/44) RUSTY HEATBLASTER* (43) 209-336 ExpDmg 106 HetDmg -7 ExpRes -173 Bkf 3-6 Range 3 Use (0/143) FLAMINATOR (47) 148-228 ExpDmg 93 HetDmg -24 MxHt 3-6 Range (110/0) HYBRID HEAT CANNON* (47) 159-269 ExpDmg 105 HetDmg -33 MxHt 3-6 Range (104/0) CORRUPT LIGHT (51) 140-236 ExpDmg 93 HetDmg -24 MxHt 3-6 Range (16/47) DAWNBLAZE (52) 210-272 ExpDmg 71 HetDmg -9 ExpRes 3-6 Range (16/47) OVERCHARGED ROCKET (63) 202-362 ExpDmg 106 HetDmg -14 ExpRes 1 Psh -1 Jmp 3-6 Range 3 Use ( 0/75) 180 Bkf BATTERY* ________________________________________
Link to list (old forum):
http://community.tacticsoft.net/t/maxed-mythicals-listing/6499
Link to Google Spreadsheet (Maintained by @SheilaStar):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/120nkvLPcG8EDkqjVkGY4g_gNtu26L9ccb9zlAz6ejs/edit?usp=sharing
Older stats before the rebalancing (old forum):
http://community.tacticsoft.net/t/the-old-pre-nerf-maxed-mythicals-thread/5787
Divine Stats Thread (old Forum):
https://community.tacticsoft.net/t/divine-stats-thread/43432
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