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Posts posted by SawzAll
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4 minutes ago, trophy435 said:
this would indicate a fixed clocking seed which is a rookie mistake for some programmer
Possibly, if they're not calling (forgive my QBasic) RANDOMIZE TIMER.
Or it could mean they did a Nintendo Game Boy Pokemon thing and went with a table of truly random numbers.
But without the source code, we can't be sure.
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11 minutes ago, epicspeedster said:
energy regen isn't as good as cap
Maybe, but notice that several META have mass regen boosters. But I can't fault you for mything Malice Beam: I love this weapon.
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1 hour ago, ChooseGeno said:
(yes this is a joke)
Yeah I think the PC app is by far the best
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31 minutes ago, epicspeedster said:
The thing I want to myth most is either a weapon on my second mech, so it can actually drain people better, or a energy module on my first, because against energy my first mech is pretty weak
Then I would recommend your mass regen booster. It's META.
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On 12/18/2020 at 6:23 PM, trophy435 said:
lock if a thread like this exists already
Personally, this forum does need polishing... and lots of it. Looks drabby and boring here. Hopefully, most of the features from the old forum (Discourse) can be applied here.
I disagree. I don't mind the look, and if you want to improve that please do. But this software has a much better ignore feature. So I like the new forum better.
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Modules.
In my opinion, heat engines and quad core boosters are superior to storage units (except maybe dual engine and combined storage unit).
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I agree with nas-1. And if you already have two desolations, I think your best bet is to go dual desolation, like nas-1 said.
Get a magma recoiler or a couple repulsors (if you use repulsors, don't upgrade them, in my opinion, unless they're the advanced repulsor, which is premium I think).
Or a hammer and terror cry.
Basically, two weapons to push your enemies to your 4-8 range so your desolations can kick butt.
Also, work on your modules. Your target goal should be at least 500 energy capacity, 500 heat capacity, 250 regeneration, and 250 cooling.
Unless you plan to go energy-free. See the META thread for long-term ideas:
I would also max your savior resistance and iron plating. These work for lower ranks, but don't ever get rid of a platinum plating or any of the premium resist modules and/or fortresses, if you get them.
In my opinion, energy/heat engines are superior at lower ranks than heat storage / energy storage. Combined storage units are good.
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14 minutes ago, Zylok said:
Tonto is the best drone for the build you are running though. You can also focus on your weapons first if you'd prefer that.
I can agree there. I used to hate the concept of a 2-4 range drone. I got a Tonto and, with that same basic physical mech config, started to see why it's so useful. Now I love it.
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22 minutes ago, Addictive gamer said:
Need a good energy torso any suggestion
I like rusty energy armor, and it's on the META.
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1 hour ago, RaymondL1747 said:
Heyy SawsALL i got a question on m mechs Should I use heatpoint or firefly?
I'm only arena rank 10/11. I personally don't like a drone I got to keep activating. I used to despise Firefly because it is range 2-4 until I tried it, and until I saw it on the META thread. Now I'm a Firefly user.
10 minutes ago, Sparks said:Aren't you afraid of creating text walls?
Nope, I'm type A and an extrovert. I know I'm wordy but I really try to work on being brief.
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1 hour ago, MightyFire said:
Btw what can i build the 2nd mech physical mech or energy mech
I would suggest having one of each: physical, energy, heat. But that's just my opinion.
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1 hour ago, Zylok said:
How are you doing at the time?
I'm doing fine, thanks. How are you?
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5 hours ago, trophy435 said:
making it single use and rendering it basically weaker than a falcon?
yeah, way to kill the weapon
Yeah, I agree. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but mine is that this would be a step too far.
I think if the weapon is going to be nerfed, we should be more conservative as to how much we nerf it because nerfing is always unpopular.
The person I faced in the arena with dual Frantic Brutes is probably not going to like their weapons nerfed. But if we nerf them as little as possible, that may make less dual Frantic Brute players less likely to rage quit.
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11 minutes ago, Lord Gorgon said:
Only real solution
I respectfully disagree with anyone who says there's only one real solution. There are many different potential solutions.
I'm not saying you aren't welcome to share your opinion. If anything, I'm encouraging everyone to share their opinion.
But I don't think there's any solution that is the only solution. I think there are multiple potential solutions, and Gato Games will decide which is the best.
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7 minutes ago, rc said:
instead of seeing my comments as an attac
I didn't read anything except the last paragraph.
You're the one who thought my comments were a threat. And you were the one who challenged me.
I never thought your comments were a threat. And your behavior, if anything, only made it even more clear that you're not a serious threat.
I called you out on your hypocrisy and you doubled down.
I'm not interested in talking to someone who can't participate in brainstorming without attacking people or feeling threatened.
But hey, I guess it was time to test out the forum settings.
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7 minutes ago, rc said:
SawzAll, if you can’t test out your 2-shot Spartan theory with me in a match, then you can’t have much credibility in your own words.
What a shame. Words are only good if you’ve the faith to back it up.
I see nothing wrong with people discussing ideas. However, people also need to be able to take criticisms along with those discussions. It’s just the nature of those discussions. After all, you’re talking to other people with different views.
You don't find it ironic that you're complaining that people don't take other views into consideration but you're complaining about my views?
I don't know where or how you interpreted what I said about an IDEA about a WEAPON on a GAME to be a threat to you.
Here's a life hint: if you don't like my idea, ignore it. This thread is about people sharing what THEY think will help fix the Frantic Brute.
There's nothing to "back up." This is a brainstorming thread. You're coming into a brainstorming session like a bull in a china shop.
If you want the free flow of information, then don't come in here and try to silence people.
Honestly, I laugh at issuing challenges over hypothetical nerfs because we can't test these out in the arena, so your challenge is both irrelevant and impossible.
And don't say "well I'll only fire my spartan at you twice." I don't know you: maybe you are honorable and I can trust you to do that. But given my OTHER experience on the arena, almost no one honors their word, so forgive my skepticism.
But even then, there was no challenge being issued to you, so why are you interpreting it this way?
If I want to test out a 2 shot spartan, I can use WU to test it. That wasn't the point, and no one is challenging you.
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10 minutes ago, epicspeedster said:
I know you're not asking for help, but you don't need hammer if you have recoiler
Yeah, I know. But for now I'm holding on to it because I am grinding and upgrading a substitute. And at least for the campaign huggers, it's effective. My magma recoiler is like maybe level 28 legendary but my hammer is mythical level 30 so for now I'm holding on to the hammer.
What I'm kicking myself over is fooding my viking hammer
But anyways, I'm just holding on to it for now, mainly for campaign clingers. I have some changes coming. My heat mech may transition to energy free soon.
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5 hours ago, W.H.I.T.E.O.U.T said:
Oh, and Flash is dying, so we're all likely going to be moving to mobile, anyways. (It's most likely dead now.)
No, we're not. PC version still works extremely well. Alexander already told everyone that flash going away won't apply to the PC app, and it won't apply to the phone apps either. With all due respect, everyone, please stop. Alexander said it will continue to work.
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4 minutes ago, NAME_NOT_FOUND said:
EMP stops being effective when it doesn't energy break
It still does. I can't speak for 1-5 arena ranks, but look at the dual valiant sniper mech. Two X 2 shots X potential of 240 drain (with arena shop buffs). Four shots of 240 (i.e. 960) is better than one shot of 412.
And that's two valiants = 102 kg versus one 70 kg EMP.
EMP has its place. But saying something is ineffective just because no META are listed that use EMP is like saying Savagery is ineffective because it's not in the top ranks. Come over here to rank 10/11 arena: EMP and Savagery are still useful here.
That's like saying the .22 rifle is ineffecive because US military uses M4/M16. (I carried an M16 in Iraq). It's not that .22 rifle isn't effective for civilians who hunt game that's smaller than a deer. It's that the military doesn't think it's enough power to equip everyone with it. I'm sure there are some special forces and odd tactics uses for .22 such as survival uses, but just because it's not the main thing don't mean it's not effective. In fact, it excels at survival use where .223 (M4/M16) does not, in that it is compact.
Same for the FN P90. Just because OUR military don't use that rifle doesn't mean it's ineffective elsewhere in the world.
Saying this is what we call splitting or "all or nothing" thinking. It's not logical.
EMP doesn't need to be buffed. And before you say it, Heat Bomb does not need to be buffed either. META is about finding the right combination that is most effective for you and the majority of top rank 1 players. That's just how it goes.
People told me energy free armor was ineffective and needed to be buffed, so I was thinking about using it for mythical food. Glad I held on to it instead, because a week later, the META thread came out, and now I know how I can use it.
Just because it's not useful for you doesn't mean it's not useful for someone somewhere.
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5 hours ago, Sparks said:
For me, It's useless; Because all my weapons are L-M.
ALL? That's freaky.
Aren't massive legs E-M?
I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm just surprised.
Maybe this is why we need the gifting system
But seriously, there's some items on the Meta posting (CleverName) that are E-M.....................
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4 hours ago, W.H.I.T.E.O.U.T said:
Why? It's because of how lackluster the diversity of the meta is and how tiring it would be to see the same builds over and over...
With all due respect, I just had a conversation with CleverName and there's a way to do variations on things, such as electric hugger with saw.
Why not do this:
1) First, achieve rank 1 with something that's meta, then
2) Experiment with builds using the workshop "team" function and then maybe you'll design the next new META everyone uses?
Still, it's your life, do what you want.
Post-Buff Builds (03.01.2020)
in Game Discussions
Posted · Edited by SawzAll (see edit history)
I can't really show it yet because I don't have a lightning platinum vest, and WU needs to be updated. But I am thinking LPV is going to find its way to the top due to its resistance values. It makes me regret using one to myth my rusty energy armor. But the regret level is only 1%.