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Deimos

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  1. 1 hour ago, Frero said:

    I would disagree, CleverName's list had many builds which were never used/ stopped being used, because they were only ever used since he said they were good.

    This doesn't mean anything. Did people stop using them because they were bad? I still see a lot of them being used with minimal alterations. 

  2. 1 minute ago, Lord Gorgon said:

    Note: most rank 1 guys are clueless and just copy paste whats around.

     

    Fyi.

    Oh I know, most people just use what works and don't experiment much but it's definitely worth it at least knowing how things work before talking about it like that guy.

  3. 1 hour ago, ZeRo_ said:

    Sigh, this was supposed only to collect 2021 meta builds, not make 2022 meta listing. Feel free to criticize me, I made the builds in WU, and yes, I know that some are either missing or wrong. As I stated, I'm working on fixing that.

    Fair enough, you could've chosen a better representative for this though. This one has no clue what they are talking about and isn't even rank 1.

  4. 1 hour ago, WarrMachine said:

    Heat legs are the best choice on practically any mech that isn't using claw because of the resistance profile. If you get drained using an energy mech, you're already in too big of a losing position that the added benefit of a few extra damage from a stomp attack isn't saving you.

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    It can make a huge difference, especially against other energy. Definitely much bigger than having extra 14 heat resist.

  5. 1 hour ago, SawzAll said:

    Yeah get that out of here. The stats are so horrible. Heat and energy mechs will destroy that. That's a counter, not META, and not even a good counter at that....

    That's it, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about because that used to be the old physical meta made by CleverName so no, it's not a counter and you don't even seem to know what a counter is. Most of the builds you posted are "counters" according to you since the elemental stats are awful for their purpose.

    All phys tanks are built like that, the energy stats are irrelevant since their HP and energy free weapons make up for it which is something you would know if you had a single look at the shit you posted yourself, namely the very first build follows that formula to a T.

    Imagine thinking this guy knows anything about the META, can't wait for more clown-generated content 🤡

    1 hour ago, Rambo Gaming YT said:

    Like you could do better.

    I can't and nobody else can, that's the point. You can't top the guy who has every item in the game x20 and already made and tested builds better than anyone else ever could. This whole thread is a waste of time since no new items were yet introduced since his departure.

    3 hours ago, SawzAll said:

    We will consider it. But understand that the META listing has been, traditionally, mech builds capable of reaching top ten player status. And we can't include literally every mech that achieved rank 1: the list would be way too long.

    Negative. ZeRo and Rambo, along with the rank 1 players of Reign, did lots of research. Your negative comment is no different than those who said CleverName's list was bad. (They were wrong then and they're wrong now.)

    It's been almost a year since CleverName put out a listing. He left the game. ZeRo and Rambo stepped in to take it over. They deserve our gratitude and respect for this action alone.

    So first off, unless you are a rank 1 player AND you consulted with LOTS of rank 1 players (some of which regularly end up in top ten status), you've got nothing. I don't know what rank you are, but really, I could care less at this point.

    Second, where's your meta listing? If you care so much, put out your own.

    Third, if you want to help, don't be disrespectful. All you end up doing with comments like this is discouraging people who apparently care more about the game and those playing it than you, because they put out a listing.

    All I did was post what they made because I was there watching them consult with top ten players and with hard to put out the best product they could to help as many people as possible.

    So yeah, your comments are unhelpful and disrespectful. Further disrespect like this will result in me reporting your comments.

    And they didn't just take CleverName's builds. Some if those builds are still META. That's why they're still in the META listing, duh. Did you accuse CleverName of copying his own META listing? 😁

    Boo-hoo crybaby. Imagine reporting someone because they disagree with you. Pathetic.

  6. 11 minutes ago, Electro said:

    2nd 3/10 that my opinion but claws on energy mechs is a bad idea for some reasons :

    - the energy mech was overweighted .

    - the energy mech previleged the resist and not hp ( generally energy mech have 2400 hp ) .

    - the energy mech use generally party crasher with evac spark but it's impossible to use them with claw .

    What? That's an energy hugger, that one works perfectly fine with the claw as long as you have the utilities as well.

  7. 31 minutes ago, Chicken Dinx said:

    The fundamental problem that there is literally no possible way for me to work towards building the mechs I want on purpose.

    I've been grinding daily for years, and it just gets so f old when every time I finally get a premium drop it's just another claw to add to the pile... It's discouraging, and I was just trying to think of a solution.

    It would never happen anyway. Compared to fixing, say, clan chat scroll, this would be a massive project. Maybe this was just a rant from the start.

    🤖

    Yes, we agree that there should be ways to get premium items more efficiently but getting a specific item is the problem. You'd have everything instantly if all it took was a couple of L-M's in exchange, that's why I think a random system is better. Maybe you could also have. categories like weapons, drones etc. just like base which would be more expensive but that's about it. Don't really need easy mode.

  8. 5 minutes ago, OKI DOKI said:

    I think all is fine. Anything that can kill and have fun it is meta. All come and go around. Use claw, bump to 3.4k, make it close to counter with a frantic dual tele, charge hook recoil or mercy and spartan. Or use claw, drain, recoil, solar and blaster and again R1. No meta reach meta status everywhere. META is for R1 and tons of set ups are not meta but do the job and some are for skilled player. I test with no meta in 1V1 and get R1 time to time when I have the mood for it without meta. 🤓🍺

    Reaching rank 1 is not hard, I can do it with flawed builds. Meta determines a mech that not only reaches rank 1 but stays and thrives there.

  9. First of all, stop using heat legs for an energy mech. Use massive shocker feet in case you get drained. 

    First mech: replace cooling booster for energy booster

    Second mech: remove one cooling booster and add utilities, namely ele hook and teleport

    Third mech: Needs more energy, replace heat engine for energy engine

     

    Other than these minor flaws these builds are pretty good.

  10. 12 hours ago, Da Creator said:

    well the point is not to get you to think it's meta it's to get people to try it and stop using the same 3 builds in the top ranks or is that too much to ask for?

    Nobody will use a build that's worse than other options, people who play for fun simply avoid rank 1.

  11. 14 minutes ago, Chicken Dinx said:

    My suggestion has nothing to do with player-to-player trading. I am suggesting a single-player exchange with the game as a severely needed pity system. Making multiple accounts wouldn't matter and would just waste your time. I am also not talking about legendary items, but premium items only (items that only drop legendary).

    So, to reiterate; Exchange, WITH THE GAME (not other players), 10 premium items (NOT "just" legendary items) for ONE premium item of your choice.

    A 10 to 1 ratio is completely fair in my opinion, but I would rather have it raised to 20 to 1 than to just get "5 premium items for 1 random premium item" (which doesn't solve the fundamental problem).



     

    What fundamental problem? Everyone would have meta builds in an instant if this system were to be introduced. I'm sitting at countless unused L-M's and I haven't even been playing as long as some other people that can be sitting on hundreds. This is a terrible idea as it's just another way to put P2W and F2P players further at odds than they already are.

  12. 58 minutes ago, Frero said:

    I personally find that Double Valiant Sniper will not work with that module setup, as the energy capacity is too low, the dual spartan mech is dead to energy, I have only seen it played with Lightning Platinum Vest, the heat double shotgun mech works better with Molten Platinum Vest. The energy double shotgun mech needs energy legs, since when you are energy broken, if you use your stomp with heat legs, the opponent in all likelihood has over 100 heat resistance, and you will deal less than 100 damage, whilst if you have energy legs (Massive Shocker Feet), you can actually deal damage once energy broken/ recoiler is out of uses/ cornered). The physical double shotgun is also regularly played with Lightning Platinum Vest, since those energy stats will not suffice for anything other than a heat build.

    I would definitely consider adding other scope mechs, which are also viable, as well as, but not limited to:

    High heat and energy capacity, but low cooling and regen energy mechs (seen at top 10 positions weekly)

    Energy hugger, specifically the one played by Void Drifter

    Burning shower mechs (eg. Reckoning and double Basalt Dissolver

    Double Teleporter, Single Resistance Drainer Traditional Hugger

    As well as Huggers using Molten Platinum Vest, double Overload Preventer, double Quad Core Booster, or using Lightning Platinum with the Same Modules

    Yeah, OP has no clue what they are talking about. Just took CleverName's builds, made them worse and called it an improvement lmao

  13. 2 hours ago, OvalQuilter said:

    Yes, I can. But how do you even imagine farming in this alts? When to build meta you need at least 4 (40 unusable premiums, in our case) premium weapons, except the modules. Maybe I'm not right, but the original idea of this thread was add exchange 10 premium items for 1 premium item you want, which is not player-to-player trade.

    Well that is even worse since you don't even have to own the item on a different account. Something like what I suggested here would be better 

     

    On 1/15/2022 at 6:59 AM, Deimos said:

    5 premium items for 1 random premium item

     

  14. Improved version of CleverName's old physical meta, one plate can be swapped for QCB.  I'm using a slightly altered version since I lack a couple of items for the perfect build but even the worse one is a solid rank 1 material.

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