Is new build better? (I am horrible at it)

[Dalek Emperor]

Old build:

 

New build:

Edited Tuesday at 05:43 AM by Dalek Emperor (see edit history)

[JamAnime]

I would switch the Harden platinum vest, with windigo. Start upping that, though only legendary. Legs are fine. Keep Desdolation and desert snake on, yet do not upgrade for now. Use Rock recoiler. Try to up that, to at-least legendary. Keep using tonto. Use double teleport and hook. Use all your modules for now, yet only up Energy Engine, for now. Though not mythical, yet. When you get a heat engine, up that as well.  You just need to farm and save boxes and gold for now. Also, save tokens. Do the best you can in Campaign normal. If you get all the way to OD6, farm that one like crazy.  Right now, you should save.

[JamAnime]

20 minutes ago, Dalek Emperor said:

Old build:

 

New build:

 

(Note: I FINALLY BEAT DANGER ZONE BOSS1! 1!!! 1!! 1!! 1!!!! 1!!!!! 1! 1111!! 1!! 1!! 1!! 1! !!! 1!!!! 1! 1!! 1! 1! 1!! 1! 1!!! 1! ) 

They both suck. Show your full inventory.  Then we can help you.

[OKI DOKI]

4 hours ago, Dalek Emperor said:

Old build:

 

New build:

 

(Note: I FINALLY BEAT DANGER ZONE BOSS1! 1!!! 1!! 1!! 1!!!! 1!!!!! 1! 1111!! 1!! 1!! 1!! 1! !!! 1!!!! 1! 1!! 1! 1! 1!! 1! 1!!! 1! ) 

1-We do not know your full inventory

2- Your mech as it is presented can work limited, but I can see your mech set up intension. 

3- Parts to understand currently in use.

    a- This part it is a good part. Normally to be use when have more HP available because will drain a lot of HP. Your mech now is 937 and that eat at full 144. As much you advance the weapon, more will hurt HP. At legend can manage but if you advance weapon, it can kill you faster.  Sure, help to damage shield and it is low weight. 

   b- Maybe can work in the beginning for some Raid or else but it is a weapon that do not hurt shields.

Both weapons above can work as combo as you set up for close attack. 

  c- This torso it is weak vs physical attack. Even it is a vest, normally physical torsos the weakness it is physical attribute. In this case it does protect more against energy mechs phys attacks having more resistance for it. It is one big reason why they use a bit more the heat version. 

 You need to think that a torso of a particular attribute, the shield it is weaker in that one and the other 2 stronger. You build thinking about it with resources. 

     4- You are using mix parts something it is normal when we start. Nothing wrong about it. The tendency it is to add more weapons because modules might not help much. Now, talking back to the pizza cutter, that weapon actually generate a lot of heat, been limited in cooling it will overheat your mech fast at current condition, even at top fight fully maxed, the player need to cool down against heat mechs attacks. Your cooling is 95 and when we start always is low like yours but need to be enhanced as fast possible reason, we look for weapons that generate a bit less heat to survive.  

     5- Another area it is the weight. Right now, weight it is 988. Maybe a teleporter or different part to combine having a bit of room but maybe you are not using enough modules. 

    6- I do not know the drone in use. 

[Dalek Emperor]

12 hours ago, JamAnime said:

They both suck. Show your full inventory.  Then we can help you.

[Dalek Emperor]

54 minutes ago, JamAnime said:

I would switch the Harden platinum vest, with windigo. Start upping that, though only legendary. Legs are fine. Keep Desdolation and desert snake on, yet do not upgrade for now. Use Rock recoiler. Try to up that, to at-least legendary. Keep using tonto. Use double teleport and hook. Use all your modules for now, yet only up Energy Engine, for now. Though not mythical, yet. When you get a heat engine, up that as well.  You just need to farm and save boxes and gold for now. Also, save tokens. Do the best you can in Campaign normal. If you get all the way to OD6, farm that one like crazy.  Right now, you should save.

Thank you so much. 

[OKI DOKI]

11 hours ago, Dalek Emperor said:

yup. nothing to add 

[Dalek Emperor]

13 hours ago, JamAnime said:

I would switch the Harden platinum vest, with windigo. Start upping that, though only legendary. Legs are fine. Keep Desdolation and desert snake on, yet do not upgrade for now. Use Rock recoiler. Try to up that, to at-least legendary. Keep using tonto. Use double teleport and hook. Use all your modules for now, yet only up Energy Engine, for now. Though not mythical, yet. When you get a heat engine, up that as well.  You just need to farm and save boxes and gold for now. Also, save tokens. Do the best you can in Campaign normal. If you get all the way to OD6, farm that one like crazy.  Right now, you should save.

There's a problem, even if I remove repulser and the armor destroying thing, I can't put rock recoiler. Should I remove every side weapon but BackBreaker to put a rock recoiler? 

[OKI DOKI]

29 minutes ago, Dalek Emperor said:

There's a problem, even if I remove repulser and the armor destroying thing, I can't put rock recoiler. Should I remove every side weapon but BackBreaker to put a rock recoiler? 

if you use rock recoiler, backstaber will be out of range.

Rock recoiler it is a game weapon for all ranks. Jam wanted you to make it legend but can wait for now if you want. 

The recoiler can be a temp weapon using heat mech or energy mech. For current set up will not work that good. 

Sure, change the torso and if get cooling module, work on that fast. 

 

Edited yesterday at 06:20 AM by OKI DOKI (see edit history)

[Dalek Emperor]

1 hour ago, OKI DOKI said:

if you use rock recoiler, backstaber will be out of range.

Rock recoiler it is a game weapon for all ranks. Jam wanted you to make it legend but can wait for now if you want. 

The recoiler can be a temp weapon using heat mech or energy mech. For current set up will not work that good. 

Sure, change the torso and if get cooling module, work on that fast. 

 

So, like this? (Imagine that rock recoiler is legendary)

[JamAnime]

 

I would use this. But you can use the vest for now. This is not a permanent build. When you start an account, you play around with weapons, and ask for help. Upping items slowly, is a major aspect. Not right away. Only items that go myth.

Use the rest of the modules you have.

[Dalek Emperor]

17 minutes ago, JamAnime said:

 

I would use this. But you can use the vest for now. This is not a permanent build. When you start an account, you play around with weapons, and ask for help. Upping items slowly, is a major aspect. Not right away. Only items that go myth.

Use the rest of the modules you have.

Why grim cobra? And can't I change arnold to BackBreaker?

What about this ? And how exactly is it worse?

[JamAnime]

Your range are all covered. Remember, these are not permanent. Grim Cobra Range is 3-6. The desert snake is 4-8, leaving range 3 open on the next turn. You want all ranges covered, that two weapons can touch.

- Rock recoiler range 1-2. It's a puch back weapon. Best use at range 2, to push opponent to range 4.  If your opponent is range 1, hugging you, you stomp then use recoiler.

- Grim Cobra range 3 - 6.  Working with the the other side weapon, you get two chances of attack if your opponent is range 4. You bring the opponent to range 3, then use that other side weapon, (I don't know the name of that, because I don't pay attention to them, being low rank weapons.) for range 3. You can change desert snake with desolution. That would be better actually.

59 minutes ago, Dalek Emperor said:

Why grim cobra? And can't I change arnold to BackBreaker?

What about this ? And how exactly is it worse?

First of all, you have range 2 - 1 recoverd with RR and legs. You don't need Backbreaker.  Your range 3 is not covered. You are an easy kill, if your opponent stays in range 3. That's why you grim, to work with snake better. Remember, these build are not permanent. My 3rd acct was like this in the beginning 1st week was this

 

Then this

 

 

Over time I was upping some items, little by little. Yet, then I switch them out.

Notice I switch out weapons, little by little.

Overtime, I got farther. Making this

This is just an idea.  This build accomplishes campaign 100%

 

If you want to see the progress of this account, here it is

 

[Dalek Emperor]

28 minutes ago, JamAnime said:

Your range are all covered. Remember, these are not permanent. Grim Cobra Range is 3-6. The desert snake is 4-8, leaving range 3 open on the next turn. You want all ranges covered, that two weapons can touch.

- Rock recoiler range 1-2. It's a puch back weapon. Best use at range 2, to push opponent to range 4.  If your opponent is range 1, hugging you, you stomp then use recoiler.

- Grim Cobra range 3 - 6.  Working with the the other side weapon, you get two chances of attack if your opponent is range 4. You bring the opponent to range 3, then use that other side weapon, (I don't know the name of that, because I don't pay attention to them, being low rank weapons.) for range 3. You can change desert snake with desolution. That would be better actually.

First of all, you have range 2 - 1 recoverd with RR and legs. You don't need Backbreaker.  Your range 3 is not covered. You are an easy kill, if your opponent stays in range 3. That's why you grim, to work with snake better. Remember, these build are not permanent. My 3rd acct was like this in the beginning 1st week was this

 

Then this

 

 

Over time I was upping some items, little by little. Yet, then I switch them out.

Notice I switch out weapons, little by little.

Overtime, I got farther. Making this

This is just an idea.  This build accomplishes campaign 100%

 

If you want to see the progress of this account, here it is

 

Do you think grim cobra is worth upping? And what's better: dessert snake or desolation? 

I am just asking, can I change grim cobra to frantic brute, and blood weep to something else? 

[JamAnime]

8 minutes ago, Dalek Emperor said:

And what's better: dessert snake or desolation?

Desolution is used more in the game. But you need the right build. Also a heat build.

8 minutes ago, Dalek Emperor said:

Do you think grim cobra is worth upping?

Depends on what element you really want to make. Energy, heat, or physical. If energy, then yea grim is fine to up. Don't just up any weapon. Choose one element for each build. But for a beginner, you will be playing around with the build. Don't up items that don't go myth.

13 minutes ago, Dalek Emperor said:

I am just asking

You can ask away.

14 minutes ago, Dalek Emperor said:

can I change grim cobra to frantic brute, and blood weep to something else? 

Yes you can. There are a lot you can switch around for that range 3.  Like I mention play around covering ranges. Go to Arena and click league.  See some replays of high ranks. Get an idea of different builds.

Right now, I only have one build for my 3rd acct.  I'm stuck at rank 17-15. I am still deciding on my 2nd. Still do not know. I will show you a video of my inventory....

 

 

[Dalek Emperor]

24 minutes ago, JamAnime said:

Energy, heat, or physical

Physical. 

[OKI DOKI]

I made some dummy fights so you can see how will work in R8-R7 plays. Because are weak for now not having enough shields and rest of modules. I decided to use L50 parts and some modules as you have right now. I changed some configurations so you can see a bit differences. I did not play to win but to get hit and to see game tendency in the match maker. Sure, will work a bit different at lower rank but this gives an idea. Check the videos

check the fight second mech. first showing now it is a fake mech so can lay 2v2. 

If you were to use some of the parts you have and the easy get rare energy parts this can be sure for lower rank fights due to modules issues

Heat set up basic

 

The set ups. I use the same just changing phys, heat, energy drones available in your account plus hook  

 

Note: Remember to follow your own logic to play as you feel and can see progress having fun. You do not have to follow other people how to play and set up. You need to set and practice and observe damage. The way I learned was exposing my mechs to be killed and check what needed to improve but need to pay attention carefully. Even now, when I set up for my kids, I make the mechs in ways for failures making harder to win and, in this way, I can see things about the game what does regardless players matched. Then, I observe players what they do to kill my mechs. Later, I kill them easy if have too. Testing break limits is fun. 

So, test your mech and see the difficulty. Do not focus into the loss and frustrating, focus on the damage and how play against you and your mistakes. I tested and tested and tested my weak mechs and with them I was able to kill tops been crappie mechs. 

For now, enhance modules as priority having a lot of limitation there. Remember that weapons depend on modules to be able to attack and to sustain damage.