The existence of frantic brute makes me want to quit

[Kendall Passionate Polaris]

19 hours ago, life king said:

double frantic guy litteraly just instant quit on me

either he wanted to lose, or maybe double frantic just isn't that good

Its beginning of season  he doesnt care about you hes TRYING TO SMURF look at your rank vs him hes a smurf

[OKI DOKI]

7 hours ago, AcE BaRoN said:

Hello

12 wins out of 28 so far  1vs1 season.

Am using two frantic brutes.

Dont see a frantic brute dominance your talking  about ?

* Notice that you use HEAT mech with high counter and low HP*

This is the reason you kept loosing..(poor sport)

 The  Claw provides high Hp + only heat counter good luck  you will NEVER win ,there nothing you can do against those two.

you need to change your built  against the BRUTE .

Stop playing will not SAVE YOU or spending  all that money  

YOU only  need to change ……, mech to energy  or other built 

Good luck and don’t leave the game

 You’re a GREAT player would be a shame to lose you or leave the  forum and QUIT YOUR CLAN AND FRIENDS 

Saad post

 

yup is true too. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Kendall-Tempest said:

Its beginning of season  he doesnt care about you hes TRYING TO SMURF look at your rank vs him hes a smurf

is loaded of snurf around. 

On R7-R6 there is a lot of power breakers for sure. I will say maybe a bit too much for people belong to those ranks. They can play at R5 and gain more gold and faster fights. No testers. When I play weaker the game gives too many powerful players. When I switch to more power the game gives too many lower as R10-R9 right on the switch. Crazy.

[Lord Gorgon]

Frantec is by no mean overpowered.

It is just a standard physical item. And as all physical items, its rng driven, as in dmg spread is very wide, and top value is quite high.

Press buton and hope for high rolls is physical gameplay by design and not specific to frantec. And yes it can be frustrating on the receiving end at times, but certainly not shaking rankings, because physical items (frantec included) have way less consistency (due to same reason).

Noobs.

Edited October 16, 2022 by Lord Gorgon (see edit history)

[Monke King]

7 hours ago, Lord Gorgon said:

Frantec is by no mean overpowered.

It is just a standard physical item. And as all physical items, its rng driven, as in dmg spread is very wide, and top value is quite high.

Press buton and hope for high rolls is physical gameplay by design and not specific to frantec. And yes it can be frustrating on the receiving end at times, but certainly not shaking rankings, because physical items (frantec included) have way less consistency (due to same reason).

Noobs.

[SawzAll]

On 10/14/2022 at 1:21 AM, Asther said:

 a concerning skill issue

Nope.  Rank 2 and I hardly play because my life is busy.  You see dual frantics in rank 1.  And all a dual frantic player needs is luck and it won't matter how much skill you claim to have.  If RNG smiles on them, they will win over you 99% of the time.  Which is why it needs a nerf.

And the fact that people have been complaining about this weapon for years tells me you're not listening to the community.

Edited October 18, 2022 by SawzAll (see edit history)

[Zylok]

What you are saying now though is that you want to make less weapons that are easily acquirable for F2P players able to get into top ranks.

7 hours ago, SawzAll said:

If RNG smiles on them, they will win over you 99% of the time.

You stated you wanted to nerf the weapons because you can win with it if you are lucky. That means a lot of other weapons should be nerfed as well, if you don't want any luck dependency in this game. Maybe just nerf the whole physical element so that all weapons deal 300-400 damage?

[Dimooon]

6 hours ago, Zylok said:

that all weapons deal 300-400 damage?

what... my divine spartan never deals 400 damage, and my first move removes 100 resist from the enemy. lol

 

I remember Frantik when he could do 1 damage, but you say he was given a nerf and he started doing at least 250 damage, what's the nerf if it's a buff!

[bestplayeroftheworld]

41 minutes ago, Dimooon said:

what's the nerf if it's a buff!

Yes ... tacticsoft (their "new" dev-generation) and logical numbers were not the best friends 

[Lord Gorgon]

That was a rework.

Rework made the weapon more consistant (less luck (or bad luck) dependent).

For people playing high rolls and auto quiting if low rolls -> nerf.

For people playing a strategy game and counting on consistency -> buff.

 

Noobs.

[SolarisHK-CZ805]

7 minutes ago, Lord Gorgon said:

That was a rework.

Rework made the weapon more consistant (less luck (or bad luck) dependent).

For people playing high rolls and auto quiting if low rolls -> nerf.

For people playing a strategy game and counting on consistency -> buff.

 

Noobs.

Then I'll remove my frantic with another spartan happily (if i get another spartan that is)

[bestplayeroftheworld]

44 minutes ago, SolarisHK said:

Then I'll remove my frantic with another spartan happily (if i get another spartan that is)

I would gladly give you 6 from my 8, which I have no use for anymore 

Power Creep is a thing in games (unfortunately) 

Tacticsoft was a specialist about ...

 

[SawzAll]

9 hours ago, Zylok said:

What you are saying now though is that you want to make less weapons that are easily acquirable for F2P players able to get into top ranks.

No I'm not.  With all due respect, this excuse is the exact stupid argument of whoever invented the weapon, because even if you create such a weapon for, as they claimed, "F2P to get into top ranks," everyone just begins to use it and it really doesn't matter any more.  Add it being OP and it breaks the game's philosophy.

(Note, I am not calling you stupid, I'm saying whoever invented the weapon, if that was their logic, that logic is stupid and broken.  It's not logical at all.  It's power creep, which is a dumb concept that many gamers hate.)

In fact this is the exact reason, psychologically, people quit at top ranks.  They get there with their frantic cancer, thinking when they make it they will finally be happy with the game, then they realize top ranks is not a walk in the park, then they quit.  And another reason that contributes to it is that they will never get top 10 with dual frantic cancer (by itself) and so they stagnate at top ranks because now they don't know what to do when they get there.  Their inventory isn't deep enough and so they get locked into dual frantic for the foreseeable future. 

This game is a vast top ranks account graveyard.  Top ranks accounts that have been abandoned are given and sold (not by me, mind you) and acquiring one isn't difficult.  It's a sad state of affairs.

Then of course one of the favorite builds of tabbers and hackers was frantic cancer, for various reasons.

I am not insulting anyone, nor the game.  But people have been complaining about how stupid a concept this weapon is from the beginning.  I've been playing 2 years and I hear it over and over.  It limits creativity because you must build a mech that can defeat this build, rather than building more freely because more creative builds might get their butts handed to them in the arena.  If you have to build a certain way to compensate for a broken OP weapon in the game, it's a problem.

We can disagree, and I still have the utmost respect for you.  But the weapon is broken and too strong.  It should get nerfed to the point where it's identical to spartan carnage, just 2 shots instead of spartan's 3.  That way spartan, which is a premium, will BE premium compared to frantic cancer.  As is, it's barely 1% better in the arena, and in some ways inferior due to dual frantic's nova damage.

Take a game like Dungeons and Dragons.  Players and DMs complain about broken things that cause high amounts of nova damage, like frantic.  Nova damage being rapid damage.

But who are we kidding?  This game is already very unrealistic because mechs move around.  In this game there's very little movement possible, which basically locks you into being stuck in a sideways scroller with frantic.  You can't move to throw off aim.  You can't dodge or go behind cover.  You're just stuck.  Good luck dodging frantic cancer with top rockets like distance shredder and superb charge, etc.  If they get lucky with RNG you're just toast and there's almost nothing you can do about it because they can also bring utilities and match your movement.

Edited October 19, 2022 by SawzAll (see edit history)