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2 hours ago, Monke King said:

I use zarkares 

if no windigo as example, you can use Zar even some other players do not use nightmare. I have a Zar and was my primary torso in O.D FARM for my first mech. with constant spartans , frantics and solar torch family it does get hard to move up with it with different combos. Still good till reach R7 as base and sure can be use on top R3 as basic with strong configuration but in basic, I consider is for R7-R6. That it is an investment that cost to the player in the game current status. Like 1.5 years ago it was ok to invest. Sure, if nothing else it is ok to max. 

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