SawzAll

My opinion, if you need basically everything and especially arena coins, this is your deal.  If you have at least 2 full fortress mechs and need random stuff that usually isn't in a deal, this is for you.  For those who need fortresses or specific items, probably wait.

Yeah I felt yl like this was a bad offer. Maybe good for a rich kid who likes energy and doesn't know better.

Higher, but not way high.  Last I did research on this, usually it's only one rank above you, or the same rank as you.

Higher, but not way high.  Last I did research on this, usually it's only one rank above you, or the same rank as you.

Higher, but not way high.  Last I did research on this, usually it's only one rank above you, or the same rank as you.

I'm opening this thread to ask if the clan war glitch has been fixed.  It seems to happen only with A/B box levels.  UPDATE: some of my members say they got the A box, some got the B (like myself).  A previous report:
So I'm basically confirming it is a bug.  Today, 11/14/2022, my clan clearly won, yet we got the B box, even though it was advertising A box to the winner:

This is a screenshot BEFORE we finished our attacks:

 

Yeah I think we need a channel or post on here where we can post screenshots of smurfs who are ruining the game.  I encountered like 5 of them yesterday just trying to get my five daily wins.
However, I would love to help with this, but I would need the reassurance of the forum moderators that they aren't going to take the post down.  They tend to do this with rants about how the game has issues.

yes i think i agree with you my friend
So i have an idea for a new player friendly boiler. both torso and legs are available from common and flaminators are from rare. it does require a bit of balancing as it differs from person to person. also note that this thing absolutely requires fortresses to work. also note dual corrupt light is kinda hard to deal with in terms of range so i recommend a melee to go with it. for my perspective until epic go with epic iron bark ( the shotgun ) and then go for a hammer. also try to go for basalt dissolver to try and get the resistance down. but in its pure form it can work. also the entire thing has a lot of tolerance so you can go for any type of weapon in those slots ( corrupt light is VERY heavy ) but i would recommend against something like a heat bomb or reckoning or any kind of weapons that are heavy and/or require you to take damage. for heat bomb you could tweak the modules but strict NO for reckoning because that thing is 83 kg (nearly 100). and also i would recommend you watch out for flame throwers and try not to get to sniping range. stay between 3 - 6 range. pls try balance this because i can't as people's play styles differ

I agree, there should be more incentive to beat 1v1, 2v2, and 3v3 in hard and insane.  like, another reward box of power kits.

I agree, there should be more incentive to beat 1v1, 2v2, and 3v3 in hard and insane.  like, another reward box of power kits.

Yup, the grinding is eternal.  Very existential.

Yup, the grinding is eternal.  Very existential.

Thanks bro 🙂 

Yup, the grinding is eternal.  Very existential.

Check SawZall information links. You will learn a lot if you do not have a lot of experience playing or even old ones to back to the game. Very helpful. Help you for fortune boxes, set ups and else. Give him a like or two or more. 

Rates have already been improved.  I nearly always get epics now.
I agree they should not have common but getting all common in a fortune box is now almost impossible.
Spend arena coins to upgrade your chances.  Honestly most of the good items I've got over the years have been from fortune boxes. The rest from deals.
I know it's frustrating, I really do.  But this is a long-term grinding game.  Just be patient, your luck will always change.

BLUF: We ran the fortune box research out to 120 boxes from the previous 40 (see previous study) and found that chance of rare is 63.0%, common 5.3%, Legendary 3.7%, and Epic 28.0%.  The difference in calculated legendary rate increased 0.3%, meaning there was no significant (i.e. 5% being the cut-off) difference from the last study.  (Ignore the 60.5)

LONG STORY: 
First, thanks to everyone who helped me out: @dirtycarot @epicspeedster@Fordekash Zbey Kse, @ZeRo_ @Sleckmo @diego brando  @GGoT
     So I ran this study out to 120 (was aiming for 100) because people didn't believe me when I said there was no significant difference between 40 and 100+.  So here you go: here's proof there's no significant difference.  If you really base your arena shop upgrades on whether the legendary rate is 3.3% vs 3.7% then you might need to seek professional help 😄 😛 
     I tried to make the colors in the chart match the game's color coding, but I was not able to edit them individually (gotta love Excel).  If you want to pay me to buy a student copy of IBM SPSS, so that the colors match, please let me know.
     The findings remain the same: for most people, it will not be advantageous to upgrade your fortune box rate in the arena shop if you want more legendaries: not until you upgrade the other important things like damage, capacities, hit points, resistance, backfire reduction, etc.
     However, I will also say that while the fortune box might as well be called the "Blue Box" because of rares being the majority (63%), I will say that this is at least reasonably generous of the game to give you legendaries.  And in this data, one of our members got a Bright Roar.  Another got an Energy Monkey torso.  I got an MPV from a fortune box once (but not while this study was going on).
     There are some limitations to this study, though, as always:
It appears the game bases your rates off of the code but using a RNG call to your host machine.  Therefore, if you happen to somehow be on a computer that has a broken RNG, you could get potentially higher rates or lower rates than these. To help you understand the measure of significance: it's mostly agreed upon by Statisticians that 1% is the level of significance required for difference to be important, but only if you are doing things within the hard sciences.  For example, if we were manufacturing gun barrels and machine A's differences in finished product width was a 1% spread versus machine B was a 0.1% spread, this would be cause for concern because we might accidentally manufacture barrels that are out of specifications and thus cause accuracy problems on machine A, but machine B would be better for our needs.  For things that use probability and normal curves (human behavior experiments, things based in chance), the measure is 5%.  So if there had been a 5% difference between study A and study B, we would conclude that 40 is not enough data points.  However, what we see is 0.3%, which is less than both a strict hard-science 1% margin and a more soft-science psychology and probability 5%.  Therefore our data is very reliable. More data points will only make the rates more accurate, but should not (as we have demonstrated) change your conclusions. There appears to be no difference in who was providing the screenshots in terms of player rank.  There also seemed to be no difference in whether the fortune box was from the shop or from farming the campaigns.  Thus I believe it is safe to conclude that these stats apply to all fortune boxes.  But if you have a good reason to believe shop versus campaign is different, please let me know. Keep in mind some times when you complete parts of the campaign, the fortune box animation is given, even though normally the resulting rewards are fixed.  It is unclear yet if there are times when completing the campaign will result in a higher drop rate for special circumstances.  However, we were not calculating fortune boxes for special circumstances (because that would take way too long). The rates are PER ITEM IN THE BOX, not the entire box.  This is because the items in the box are not always identical.  You can sometimes get a box result (as we have shown in the pictures, which is available upon request) where you get one epic and one common.  It just happens.  Because fortune boxes seem to be "per item" chances, but seem to light up the light on the animation based on the highest rarity of item you receive (i.e. lights "legendary" when you get only one legendary, etc.), I thought this would be a more logical and simple way to run the numbers.  Your mileage may vary. By the way, as soon as I finished, my alt got this in a fortune box

Rates have already been improved.  I nearly always get epics now.
I agree they should not have common but getting all common in a fortune box is now almost impossible.
Spend arena coins to upgrade your chances.  Honestly most of the good items I've got over the years have been from fortune boxes. The rest from deals.
I know it's frustrating, I really do.  But this is a long-term grinding game.  Just be patient, your luck will always change.

Rates have already been improved.  I nearly always get epics now.
I agree they should not have common but getting all common in a fortune box is now almost impossible.
Spend arena coins to upgrade your chances.  Honestly most of the good items I've got over the years have been from fortune boxes. The rest from deals.
I know it's frustrating, I really do.  But this is a long-term grinding game.  Just be patient, your luck will always change.

Rates have already been improved.  I nearly always get epics now.
I agree they should not have common but getting all common in a fortune box is now almost impossible.
Spend arena coins to upgrade your chances.  Honestly most of the good items I've got over the years have been from fortune boxes. The rest from deals.
I know it's frustrating, I really do.  But this is a long-term grinding game.  Just be patient, your luck will always change.

resistance, hp, weight
zarkares is currently among the worst torsos you can have

This doesn't help much.  Where did you get them?  Did they come from the random periodic ones?  From missions?  Which missions?

All,
     We had recently put out the research in my clan on the Fortune Box (FB) rates per different campaign missions.  At the time, we pointed out that your highest chances for getting a fortune boxes come from 3V3 Frozen Abyss (normal) and 1V1 Overlord's Den in normal and insane modes (all 12%).
     However, finally I've had time to run some other numbers for those who are looking for specific applications, using only missions that will drop FBs:
FB Chances: If you want the highest odds of getting a FB in one tank of fuel, farm 3V3 Dry Lands, Insane. XP: If you want the max experience for your fuel, 2V2 Danger Zone, Insane. Building Quests: If you want the most buildings to destroy, like for the special quests, these 3 missions have the max buildings per tank of fuel: 2V2 Frozen Abyss Normal, 3V3 Silent Waters Normal, or 1V1 Frozen Abyss Normal. Enemies Quests: If you want the max number of enemies destroyed, for special quests, 1V1 Scavenger Pass Normal. Gold: If you simply want to maximize your gold farming, 2V2 Overlord's Den Insane. I would like to thank @Knae gae ear for the inspiration to run the numbers on this, as well as the many other people in my clan who helped me run the massive FB chance study.

All,
     We had recently put out the research in my clan on the Fortune Box (FB) rates per different campaign missions.  At the time, we pointed out that your highest chances for getting a fortune boxes come from 3V3 Frozen Abyss (normal) and 1V1 Overlord's Den in normal and insane modes (all 12%).
     However, finally I've had time to run some other numbers for those who are looking for specific applications, using only missions that will drop FBs:
FB Chances: If you want the highest odds of getting a FB in one tank of fuel, farm 3V3 Dry Lands, Insane. XP: If you want the max experience for your fuel, 2V2 Danger Zone, Insane. Building Quests: If you want the most buildings to destroy, like for the special quests, these 3 missions have the max buildings per tank of fuel: 2V2 Frozen Abyss Normal, 3V3 Silent Waters Normal, or 1V1 Frozen Abyss Normal. Enemies Quests: If you want the max number of enemies destroyed, for special quests, 1V1 Scavenger Pass Normal. Gold: If you simply want to maximize your gold farming, 2V2 Overlord's Den Insane. I would like to thank @Knae gae ear for the inspiration to run the numbers on this, as well as the many other people in my clan who helped me run the massive FB chance study.